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A Rush to judgment (Chuck Norris defends Governor Huckabee)
World Net Daily ^ | January 14, 2008 | Chuck Norris

Posted on 01/13/2008 10:55:13 PM PST by Kurt Evans

Our country is definitely in a cultural fight for its life. And what's at stake is the very heart and core of America ...

More than any other election in decades, this presidential one has erected a fighting ring in which conservatism will either maintain its title or be stripped of it by the appointment of leadership that will champion secular progressive change...

Even now our own GOP candidates are wrestling over who is truly conservative.

At the last round of debates, Fred Thompson, degraded by his own dilapidating campaign and threatened by Mike Huckabee's lead in the polls, tried to liberalize Mike ...

Even radio host Rush Limbaugh heckled Huckabee with a similar liberal lashing, accusing him of not being a conservative in the line of Ronald Reagan – an unfortunate "Rush to judgment"...

Any GOP candidate can be dissected to a point that he is railed for having liberal tendencies...

And while former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson is also a friend, his record of consistently voting against tort reform, opposing the impeachment of Bill Clinton on perjury, supporting opponents of Reagan (Ford and Baker) in 1976 and 1980, and failing to support federal constitutional amendments that would ban abortion and gay marriage doesn't exactly make him "the only true conservative."

To be fair, even if Reagan himself were running today, he likely couldn't dodge liberal labeling, especially for his signing of the Immigration Control and Reform Act of 1986, which granted amnesty to aliens who resided in the U.S. since before 1982.

As I've already shown in my past WND columns, most liberal accusations against Mike Huckabee's record on immigration, taxes and crime are also biased, out-of-context rushes to judgment.

The complete record and platform [link in post #2] of this former Arkansas governor reveals a tried-and-true conservative.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008election; 2016election; abortion; aliens; arkansas; chucknorris; conservatism; culture; election2008; election2016; elections; fredthompson; gop; immigration; mikehuckabee; ronaldreagan; rushlimbaugh; talkradio; texas
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To: Kurt Evans

I thought Chuck was just a bad actor. I guess he really isn’t all that bright after all.


21 posted on 01/13/2008 11:18:42 PM PST by A1 Southern Man (Fred Thompson , the one who can win.)
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To: Route66
The “Shiites” of Arkansas, as Huckabee called state conservatives, know the real Mike Huckabee.

Those "shiites" have admitted that they are on Ron Paul's payroll.

While he and Rockefeller won re-election in 2002, Sen. Tim Hutchinson didn’t.

Tim Huchinson lost his reelection after he dumped his wife and married his aide. The voters didn't like it. It wasn't Huckabee's fault.

22 posted on 01/13/2008 11:19:44 PM PST by HAL9000 (Fred Thompson/Mike Huckabee 2008)
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To: Kurt Evans

I am so sick of these RINO’s dragging down the memory of Ronald Reagan to excuse their liberal records and positions.


23 posted on 01/13/2008 11:20:09 PM PST by Bizhvywt
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To: Kurt Evans
A SNIP from the article :

He has consistently stood for pro-life, pro-education, pro-military, pro-death penalty, pro-God, pro-constitutional, pro-middle America, pro-small business, pro-marriage, pro-legal immigration, less government, less taxes, fiscal solvency, etc., positions.

You forgot the Anti-American/Pro-Mexification Position, Chuck.

And the 'less taxes, fiscal solvency' claim is m-o-o-ie dubi-ouso, compa-a-a-dre.

24 posted on 01/13/2008 11:20:49 PM PST by skeptoid
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To: Kurt Evans

Come on Chuck. I would think the 1000+ pardons would bother him. We need to reason with Chuck. He is intelligent. We need to appeal to his reason.


25 posted on 01/13/2008 11:22:07 PM PST by Maelstorm (No one deserves to die because someone let a violent criminal out of jail.)
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To: Kurt Evans

I beg to differ, Chuck. The rush to judgement was by those that jumped on his badnwagon...we waited and scrutinized and found him to be sorely lacking in nearly every category.

IMHO a vote for anyone but Fred in this campaign is a vote for taking the party away from Reagan and giving it to the Neo-cons.


26 posted on 01/13/2008 11:24:31 PM PST by Khepri (Fred Thompson, he's a hundred miles away son - READY TO STRIKE!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Chuck: Look up Federalism in the Funk & Wagnalls dictionary...”

For the record, Senator Thompson’s weakness on the right to life is about much more than federalism. Even if Roe v. Wade is overturned, he’s said consistently since 1994 that he wouldn’t support state laws to prohibit abortion. During his 1994 campaign he said, “I’m not willing to support laws that prohibit early-term abortions.” He told Project Vote Smart, “Abortions should be legal in all circumstances as long as the procedure is completed within the first trimester of the pregnancy.” He explicitly refused to support laws prohibiting abortions for convenience:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=P5a_Fpu_8KE

In 1996 he signed a document saying, “I do not believe abortion should be criminalized.” He still personally opposes laws to prohibit abortion:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=F1tfGh3ITCc
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kTQxoXD-scw
http://youtube.com/watch?v=H-b1xQNRA4g

Here’s a quote from that November 7 conversation with Tim Russert:

“When I saw—and again, ALL CONSISTENT WITH WHAT I’VE SAID [emphasis mine]. I—people ask me hypothetically, you know, OK, it goes back to the states. Somebody comes up with a bill, and they say we’re going to outlaw this, that or the other. And my response was I do not think it is a wise thing to criminalize young girls and perhaps their parents as aiders and abettors or perhaps their family physician... I do not think that you can have a, a, a law that would be effective and that would be the right thing to do ...”


27 posted on 01/13/2008 11:24:45 PM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: SoConPubbie
Brevity, my man, brevity.
28 posted on 01/13/2008 11:25:53 PM PST by skeptoid
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To: Kurt Evans

I really feel bad for Chuck on this one. He claims to be a strong religious man and has fallen for Huck’s BS hook, line and sinker. If Chuck really wanted to know, the Huckster’s background is all right there for him to look at. You would think that Chuck Norris, the fictional stopper of bad guys everywhere, would be really disturbed at how many violent criminals that Huck has granted clemency to. This should have stopped Chuck cold. But I think he got sucked into the “I’m a Christian conservative” thing early and and just won’t take the blinders off.

The pathetic attacks against Fred in that article are a rehash of the completely out of context MSM attacks that we have been seeing. I’m particularly disappointed that Mr. Norris repeated that distortion of Fred’s abortion stace. Yes, Fred does not support a Constitutional amendment. Neither do it as I know it won’t work. I’ve known that long before Fred started running for President. Fred DOES however want to strike down Roe vs. Wade. This would be a far more meaningful victory and is doable in the short term. That IS a conservative principle. So lets not be intellectually dishonest here.

Come on Chuck. Supporting your guy is good, but try to remain objective here. You can’t vilify the other candidates without proper reason, and if you got those talking points directly from Huck, I suggest you do some research on your own before believing every word that comes from his campaign’s office. Those comments about Fred would be suitable for the liberal MSM spin room.


29 posted on 01/13/2008 11:27:33 PM PST by Advil000
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To: SoConPubbie; RebekahT
Wonder if Chuck has actually looked at his record as this guy has: An Open Letter From An Arkansas Evangelical

The constructs of a scorned rival in Arkansas. Ho-hum. Hold just about any top-level position in state government for a few years and one finds some friends turning into enemies in the camp.

30 posted on 01/13/2008 11:28:44 PM PST by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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To: SoConPubbie

Chuck Norris wrote: “As I’ve already shown in my past WND columns, most liberal accusations against Mike Huckabee’s record on immigration, taxes and crime are also biased, out-of-context rushes to judgment.”

Thanks to David Thompson for demonstrating. :-)


31 posted on 01/13/2008 11:31:47 PM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: unspun
The constructs of a scorned rival in Arkansas. Ho-hum. Hold just about any top-level position in state government for a few years and one finds some friends turning into enemies in the camp.

Once again unspun, much like your candidate's behavior, you cannot answer to the truth of the message you are presented with so you have to denigrate the messenger!
32 posted on 01/13/2008 11:31:50 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Kurt Evans

Same goes for you Kurt.

Prove what David Thompson has said is untrue, can you?


33 posted on 01/13/2008 11:33:02 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Kurt Evans
and failing to support federal constitutional amendments ...

Sorry, Chuck. People who insist on tinkering with the US Constitution are anything but conservative. A conservative is one who works to "conserve" the Constitution.

Rolling back government to its constitutionally valid functions - that would be conservative.

Stacking the Supreme Court with nine strict constitutionalists -- that would be conservative.

Sending the military to the border to repel invaders with all available force -- that would be conservative. Etc., Etc.

None of the candidates meet all my preferences, but Thompson and Hunter both come close. None of the others rate any better than the Dems on Constitutional issues.

Huckabee wants to dictate, not preside. Dittos for McCain, Paul, Guliana, Hillary, Obama, and Edwards.

34 posted on 01/13/2008 11:35:44 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: SoConPubbie

Huckabee is human. He has made some mistakes. This article is also quite slanted in its interpretation of reality. I’m not denigrating the messenger. I’m sure he’s a nice guy.

From my experiences with state politicos, there are always rivalries and many get very personal. Anyone can create a list of grievances. I know I could tell some stories, too.


35 posted on 01/13/2008 11:38:07 PM PST by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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To: Brucifer
At the last round of debates, Fred Thompson, degraded by his own dilapidating campaign and threatened by Mike Huckabee's lead in the polls, tried to liberalize Mike ...

Superman may wear Chuck Norris pajamas at night, but Chuck Norris wears Fred Thompson pajamas.

36 posted on 01/13/2008 11:38:31 PM PST by pcottraux (Fred Thompson pronounces it "P. Coe-Troe"...in 2008.)
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To: meadsjn
Huckabee wants to dictate, not preside.

God save this humble forum.

37 posted on 01/13/2008 11:39:33 PM PST by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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To: unspun
Huckabee is human. He has made some mistakes. This article is also quite slanted in its interpretation of reality. I’m not denigrating the messenger. I’m sure he’s a nice guy.

From my experiences with state politicos, there are always rivalries and many get very personal. Anyone can create a list of grievances. I know I could tell some stories, too.


Once again, no proof to back up your assertions, just words that are spun.
38 posted on 01/13/2008 11:45:52 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Good night all, I am sure we will pick-up on this tomorrow.


39 posted on 01/13/2008 11:46:38 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: NavVet

“You know the Huckster is getting desperate when he drags out Norris to launch a pathetic hit piece.”

I’m not sure there was any effective way for Chuck to defend Governor Huckabee without hitting back at the records of the other candidates, but the column as a whole is more than a mere hit piece.


40 posted on 01/13/2008 11:50:12 PM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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