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If there's no FRed and no Hunter and we're left with the four headless RINOs, then what?
January 10, 2008 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 01/10/2008 3:40:52 PM PST by Jim Robinson

The question was posed to me last night, if the only two conservatives in the race were to drop out, leaving the hapless RINOs Giuliani, Romney, Huckabee and McCain to ward off the Evil Witch of the East then, Jim, what do we do?

Well, I think four issues that most of us conservatives will agree on that are at the top or near the top of our priority lists are National Defense, Border Security, Guns and Life should be considered. We can argue all day long on whether or not these guys are constitutionally minded, small government fiscal conservatives, and I don't believe any of them are, but we'll leave that for another day. Let's concentrate on National Defense, Border Security, Guns and Life.

Well, I can see right off that that rules out Rudy, the draft dodging, gun grabbing, sanctuary city abortionist. At least the other three claim to be pro-life, although Romney has been a pro-choice abortionist for all of his elected history until he decided to run for president. I think Romney's pro choice, big government nanny state (RomneyCare) record gives him two big black eyes and should knock him out of any further consideration. That leaves Huckabee and McCain.

Now, all four of these guys are terrible on border security even though they're all claiming now to be border hawks. McCain led the charge for amnesty and the rest fell in line like dutiful RINO troopers. Can't really make a distinction among these guys on the border issue. All fail, though I think most conservatives would rank McCain at or near the bottom.

Guns. Rudy's definitely out. McCain's out. Romney's not much better. Guess Huckabee the big duck hunter outshoots the others in this category.

Rudy fails in all categories, McCain and Romney fail on guns, and all fail on borders. So I guess Huckabee has more to offer over the others at this point as he is at least pro-life and pro-gun.

Now comes national defense. Sorry, but I can't see the draft dodging, gun grabbing, gay loving, cross-dressing, illegal alien pandering abortion activist Rudy Giuliani as a very appealing or effective guy to head up our military, even if he did make some rousing anti-terrorist speeches on 9/11. The "gays should be allowed to serve openly in the military" Romney (no military or national security experience that I know of) doesn't give me goosebumps either.

So, again, we're down to Huckabee and McCain. Now you all know that I like Huckabee as he is a likable fellow, and I hate McCain, but wait. If the whole shebang is going to be decided on which of the still standing Republican wannabes should defend America from the terrorists and the surrendering Democrats, I think I'll have to go with McCain over Huckabee. At least McCain served in the military and has a whole lot more military and national security experience while serving on various committees in the senate than does Huckabee. Huckabee has none. And I doubt Huckabee can defeat Hillary. But then, McCain probably won't either, so guess that leaves plan B. Squat down, tuck your head down between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye.

Here's praying that the only two all around consistently reliable conservatives hang in there and one of them gets the nod.

Go Hunter!! Go, FRed, GO!!


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To: Jim Robinson
I regret that I have but one web site to give for my country. All the way with FRed!!

I'd love for Fred to win. He just needs some people to start voting for him.

381 posted on 01/10/2008 6:03:52 PM PST by period end of story (Oh life, it's bigger, it's bigger than you.)
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To: Diplomat
In 1986 there were only about 5 million illegal aliens.
In 1986 Ronald Reagan tied his amnesty to enforcement. IOWs he took responsibility for his actions.
In 1986 no one could look back at a previous amnesty to see its effects.

You are divorced from reality if you think what RR did is ethically equivalent to what the pols are trying to do today and makes him a RINO. Your street creds mean nothing it's your false logic that counts.

382 posted on 01/10/2008 6:04:29 PM PST by TigersEye (Crusty is as Crusty does.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Ummmm, just how gullible are you???? PaleoPaulie won't do a thing about the border (voted against the funding of the fence, did he not?) and he is an enemy of the American nation and military and people. If our enemies would wind up dead in the impossible situation of a paleopipsqueak White House, they will die from laughing too hard at the feckless wimp of Galveston. See them now, doubling over in hilarity when confronted by letters of marque and reprisal, foul-beaked parrots, blunderbusses, broadswords and "Avast, Matey, I'm deliverin' a message from paleoPaulie!!!!"

You have a problem with religion??? That would equate with your prior support of the thrice married cross-dressing babykiller Julie Annie and your support of do nothing Paulie who wants to punt on pro-life and lavender perversion posing as "marriage", while hiding behind his curiously perverse notions of the constitution; which will also mean taxpayer-supported "partner" benefits though the paleopipsqueak is sure to deny it. People here are entitled to be reminded of your prior track record of bad judgments.

El Run Paulie could not limit government or abolish the IRS or do anything else. A Paul presidency would be an exercise in absolute futility as he would not get 10% of the Republicans in Congress to vote for his moonbat delusions.

It seems rather likely that your vote will join your brain where the sun shineth not.

44 years of conservative activism and leadership make me your judge, jury and executioner. Off with your head!

383 posted on 01/10/2008 6:04:34 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Mr. Brightside
LOL, I doubt Ted Olson and Miguel Estrada, who are RG’s judiciary advisor's would be with him if they thought he would nominate another Ginsberg.
384 posted on 01/10/2008 6:05:29 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: tacticalogic

Uh, I believe I summarily rejected all four. Don’t see any defenses for any of them.


385 posted on 01/10/2008 6:05:44 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Jim Robinson

As good an analysis as any I’ve seen so far.


386 posted on 01/10/2008 6:05:59 PM PST by pay dirt
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To: nicmarlo

:)


387 posted on 01/10/2008 6:07:22 PM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Jim Robinson
Go Hunter!! GO, FRed, GO!!

I filled out that CandidateCalculator that was talked about here a few days ago. I told them Thompson was my choice, but they told me my choice should be Hunter. But according to them Romney wasn't far behind. Is it I who doesn't know enough about Romney, or is it the CandidateCalculator?

ML/NJ

388 posted on 01/10/2008 6:11:33 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: roses of sharon

It seems we Republicans only have a 50 percent success rate with REPUBLICAN appointed justices.

Stevens and Souter are two good examples of this.

If Giuliani picks them, where do we go? 5 percent chance of getting a conservative? Maybe 10 percent?


389 posted on 01/10/2008 6:13:01 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Jim Robinson

I guess I just find the notion of separating being “constitutionally minded, small government fiscal conservatives” from “National Defense, Border Security, Guns and Life”. Guns and life are intrinsically constitutional issues. National defense and border security are going to be compromised if they have to compete with liberal social engineering and welfare programs for resources and are being hamstrung by overloaded bureaucracies.


390 posted on 01/10/2008 6:14:13 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Excellent (and entertaining) analysis.

I might be able to cast a vote for the Huckster, the others...?

But, no way Julie Annie.


391 posted on 01/10/2008 6:14:39 PM PST by Barnacle ("We need to move away from the Kennedy wing of the Republican party.” Duncan Hunter)
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To: EGPWS
"A RINO is unpalatable dangerously unpredictable via lack of political conviction, but is still far better than a raging Stalinist."

Not if both of them are Soros' sockpuppets.

392 posted on 01/10/2008 6:19:01 PM PST by penowa
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To: TigersEye

First you call me a liar. Then you admit I was right, so now you call me “divorced from reality.”

Reagan signed an amnesty bill. That is a fact. Reagan stated such in his own words!!!!! Unlike Bush/McInsane.

How hard is this for you to understand? He granted amnesty to every illegal in the nation in 1986. <<<< There is NO enforcement, just, here is your citizenship, next. This bill also added money into the boarder patrol to supposedly stop FUTURE illegals from entering the country. This is your so called enforcement provision. How well did that work out?

Seriously, are you so naive, arrogant or ignorant that you cannot admit that Reagan granted amnesty where Bush has not? Now what Reagan did differs exactly HOW from the bill Bush NEVER got a chance to sign?

I guess in your world, not doing something makes you guilty of the crime, but actually committing the crime makes you an innocent man.


393 posted on 01/10/2008 6:19:56 PM PST by Diplomat
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To: Mr. Brightside; scripter

I agree with you both. But, we’re talking about a worse case scenario that may never happen. It makes me sick to even think about voting for Giuliani or McCain.

I’m just saying that I’m not going to sit out the election. I know what we would be getting with Hillary Clinton. My vote may not mean anything at some point. That’s a chance I’ll have to take, but I’ll vote.


394 posted on 01/10/2008 6:22:27 PM PST by LucyJo
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To: Jim Robinson
"plan B. Squat down, tuck your head down between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye."

If it comes down to that I recommend everyone do some stretching exercises first so they won't pull out their backs.


395 posted on 01/10/2008 6:23:54 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I agree with your mistrust of McCain. My point is that if amnesty is passed, everything else, including the appointment of justices to the SCOTUS, is like straightening the deck chairs on the Titanic.


396 posted on 01/10/2008 6:25:18 PM PST by kabar
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To: penowa
Not if both of them are Soros' sockpuppets.

At least the sockpuppets wear their uniform.

397 posted on 01/10/2008 6:26:50 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Diplomat

And that makes Ronald Reagan a RINO? Goodnight, Gracie.


398 posted on 01/10/2008 6:27:01 PM PST by TigersEye (Crusty is as Crusty does.)
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To: tcrlaf
"KOS and “Black Leaders’ in Michigan are urging their followers to vote on the Republican side, and to vote for McCain...."

Somebody is putting out Democrat misinformation, Kos is actually urging Democrats to vote for Romney, in order to keep Republican sniping at each other:

"We want Romney in, because the more Republican candidates we have fighting it out, trashing each other with negative ads and spending tons of money, the better it is for us. We want Mitt to stay in the race, and to do that, we need him to win in Michigan."

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/10/2713/87225/55/434206

399 posted on 01/10/2008 6:33:21 PM PST by M. Dodge Thomas (Opinion based on research by an eyewear firm, which surveyed 100 members of a speed dating club.)
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To: roses of sharon
Rudy has proposed the biggest tax cuts in history. Ain't gonna happen ... just a way to get voters to him. Tax cuts are not Tax Reform and Tax Reform is what is needed. Tax Reform and Spending Reform (read 'PORK').

His plan does repeal the 'Death Tax' and eventually (I'm not holding my breath) repeals the AMT. It retains the tax on capital gains and dividend. Then still taxes income just at a lower rate.
Rudy can talk about it, he can propose it as President and send his 'Bill' to Congress ... Congress, no matter what's is eventual makeup will "correct it" to make their mark.

"The income tax created more criminals than any other single act of government." ~ Barry Goldwater

"It would be a hard government that should tax its people one-tenth part of their income." ~ Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac


“When there is an income tax, the just man will pay more and the unjust less on the same amount of income.” ~ Plato

“The income tax has made liars out of more Americans than golf.” ~ Will Rodgers

“The income tax is a twentieth-century socialist experiment that has failed. Before the income tax was imposed on us just 80 years ago, government had no claim to our income. Only sales, excise, and tariff taxes were allowed.” ~ Alan Keys

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." ~ Thomas Jefferson

"The Tenth Amendment is the foundation of the Constitution." ~ Thomas Jefferson ["The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." Refers back to Alan Keys]

"The more corrupt the State the more numerous the laws." ~ Cornelius Tacitus

"It is a signal advantage of taxes on articles of consumption that they contain in their own nature a security against excess. ..." ~ Alexander Hamilton

For me - Abolish the Income Tax --- don't tinker with it!.
400 posted on 01/10/2008 6:34:50 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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