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To: Mobile Vulgus

Mormons believe that Jesus was the divine son of God who died and was resurrected, and therefore they are Christians, regardless of any other doctrinal differences. To say otherwise, in my opinion, is just playing with words. Unitarians believe that Jesus was an inspired prophet of God, but not himself divine, so Unitarians are not Christians. We’ve had Unitarian Presidents and the country did OK. I’m quite sure we’ll do alright with a Mormon President, if they’re otherwise well qualified.


2 posted on 12/16/2007 11:24:27 PM PST by devere
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To: devere

You obviously didn’t bother to read the article. Shame.


3 posted on 12/16/2007 11:25:55 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: devere; Mobile Vulgus

Dreher is all over the place in this article, trying to cover all his bases.


4 posted on 12/16/2007 11:26:42 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: devere

Being a “Christian” has had a particular meaning for 2000 years. It does not mean whatever anyone wants it to mean.


10 posted on 12/16/2007 11:33:43 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: devere
define "Christian"???....a Christian to me is "Christ" centered....Mormons are not Christ centered..they are Joseph Smith and their temples' centered....

moot point since it doesn't matter what religion a person is..that is their business....just as long as you don't claim to be something you are not...

18 posted on 12/16/2007 11:41:09 PM PST by cherry
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To: devere
Mormons believe that Jesus was the divine son of God who died and was resurrected, and therefore they are Christians, regardless of any other doctrinal differences. To say otherwise, in my opinion, is just playing with words.

There is a major chasm between Mormonism and historic Christianity. Its much more than playing with words. They are in fact irreconcilable theologically and doctrinally. Each considers the other heresy and apostasy. They both can not be Christian. Note that I am not saying which one I think is correct.

I’m quite sure we’ll do alright with a Mormon President, if they’re otherwise well qualified.

I quite agree. Unfortunately Mitt is a RINO. No votes for him, regardless of his religion.

19 posted on 12/16/2007 11:41:41 PM PST by Starwolf
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To: devere

Mormons themselves believe other Christians have rejected the core faith. As such, they do not define the “core faith” the same way that other Christians do, and therefore do not share this core faith. Ergo, they’re not Christians in any meaningful sense of the word.


20 posted on 12/16/2007 11:42:28 PM PST by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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To: devere

[. . .How is it, exactly, that you can get mad when people you regard as apostates consider you to be ... apostate? How does that work?]

It seems to me that anyone who is solidly grounded in their Faith will not have the time or inclination to obsess about what other churches are teaching or practicing.


31 posted on 12/16/2007 11:54:18 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: devere

Mormons also believe that God was once a man, who evolved to become a God, and all Mormons will likewise evolve into becoming Gods, who will in turn be worshipped and prayed to as our God on Earth is.

It’s the old lie of Satan, that we can be as Gods, and Joseph Smith and his followers fell for it, just as Adam did.

Mormons are not Christians...

Ed


39 posted on 12/17/2007 12:09:15 AM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: devere

>>Mormons believe that Jesus was the divine son of God who died and was resurrected, and therefore they are Christians, regardless of any other doctrinal differences.<<

Guess it depends on how you define the word “Christian”. Mormonism does not teach the concept of perfect grace. They teach “helping hand” grace. IOW, the blood of Christ ALONE is not enough to atone for ones sins. Many would say that if you do not believe that, you are not a Christian.

But I suppose it depends on what one means by “Christian”.


66 posted on 12/17/2007 1:11:16 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: devere
We’ve had Unitarian Presidents and the country did OK.

Which Presidents were Unitarian?

93 posted on 12/17/2007 3:57:34 AM PST by shekkian
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To: devere

I agree with you. Theology is Theology and politics is politics.


98 posted on 12/17/2007 5:22:44 AM PST by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: devere
Mormons believe that Jesus was the divine son of God who died and was resurrected, and therefore they are Christians, regardless of any other doctrinal differences.

The Trinity is the central doctrine of Christianity. Mormons aren't Trinitarians, and for that reason cannot be considered true Christians.

Catholics, Orthodox and the vast majority of Protestants are Trinitarians.

101 posted on 12/17/2007 6:03:34 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: devere
Mormons believe that Jesus was the divine son of God who died and was resurrected, and therefore they are Christians

Ah, but what does this really mean? Is Jesus the one and only God manifest in the flesh, or one of the gods manifest in the flesh?

As I understand it, Mormons believe in multiple gods, and that they can, in fact, become a god themselves some day. That would make them non-Christian.

113 posted on 12/17/2007 6:39:39 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: devere

Mormons also believe that they will become God and that the current God live on planet Kolob with his wives and ‘spirit children’.

A temple going Mormon, such as Mitt, must also swear an allegiance to the church first, anything else is second.


118 posted on 12/17/2007 7:04:45 AM PST by Rita Hayworth (Isn't being a God of his own planets enough for Romney, he has to be president too??!!)
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To: devere

If a religon denies that Jesus Christ was both God and Man, then it is NOT Christian.

Words are IMPORTANT.


119 posted on 12/17/2007 7:11:57 AM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: devere

“Mormons believe that Jesus was the divine son of God who died and was resurrected, and therefore they are Christians, regardless of any other doctrinal differences. To say otherwise, in my opinion, is just playing with words. “


All of the Christian churches agree that Mormons are not Christian and have to be baptized.

The Vatican, the Greek Orthodox, all the rest are in agreement on Mormonism.

http://www.catholic.com/library/noncatholic_groups.asp

Here is Southern baptist http://www.4truth.net/site/c.hiKXLbPNLrF/b.3471385/k.6CD7/Are_Mormons_Christians.htm

Lutheran http://www.lcms.org/pages/print.asp?
NavID=12308&path=%2Fpages%2Frpage.asp&print=1

Assemblies of God http://pentecostalevangel.ag.org/Articles2002/4579_spencer.cfm

United Methodist http://archives.umc.org/umns/news_archive1999.asp?story=%7B3BE161B2-8603-4B32-A64F-0C9D2CBFAF85%7D&mid=3368

Presbyterians http://www.pcusa.org/interfaith/study/lds.htm

Here is the Greek Othodox position on mormonism as Christian.

http://www.goarch.org/en/ourfaith/articles/article7101.asp

cults in America http://www.goarch.org/en/ourfaith/articles/article7075.asp


133 posted on 12/17/2007 8:20:31 AM PST by ansel12
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To: devere
Mormons believe that Jesus was the divine son of God who died and was resurrected, and therefore they are Christians, regardless of any other doctrinal differences.

But they don't believe he was the only divine son of God, the one who has existed with the Father throughout all eternity.
212 posted on 12/17/2007 1:06:32 PM PST by aruanan
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To: devere
Mormons believe that Jesus was the divine son of God who died and was resurrected

But not that They are two parts of the Triune God head (one god in three persons)

they are Christians, regardless of any other doctrinal differences

If we were talking pre trib or post trib rapture that would be one thing. Mormons dont Believe God is sovereign over the universe, thats *huge*.

To say otherwise, in my opinion, is just playing with words.

No! Gods complete sovereignty and the oneness of the God head are serious points.

281 posted on 12/17/2007 8:38:12 PM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: devere
Mormons believe that Jesus was the divine son of God who died and was resurrected, and therefore they are Christians, regardless of any other doctrinal differences. To say otherwise, is just playing with words..

Thank you...

It's amazing the length some that some anti-Mormon Freepers will go to try and distort Mitt Romney and his faith.

337 posted on 12/18/2007 4:02:51 AM PST by Edit35
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To: devere

I agree with you.

Unitarians need to be called out more. Not that they are many, but they are definitely not Christian and not really of God.


370 posted on 12/18/2007 8:35:59 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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