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Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #8 – Dearborn, MI 10/09/07 - Official Discussion Thread

Posted on 10/09/2007 11:58:39 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #8 – Dearborn, Michigan 10/09/07 - Official Discussion Thread

CNBC/MSNBC/The Wall Street Journal are jointly sponsoring the first Republican Presidential debate of the 2008 campaign focusing on economic issues. It will be held on October 9 in Dearborn, Michigan at the University of Michigan-Dearborn at the Ford Community and Performing Arts Center. Broadcast is live on CNBC at 4 PM ET (1 PM PT) and re-broadcast on MSNBC at 9 PM ET (6 PM PT). CNBC's Maria Bartiromo and MSNBC's Chris Matthews will host the debate.

Live streaming on CNBC.com

Candidates participating:



TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
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To: Rick_Michael

I would imagine they have paid consultants who look into this stuff.

Projecting leadership image is important too.

best taylored is Romney.

I think Thompson is the most rebelious for going with the blue shirt.

NOTE: Thompson does have his american flag pin.


1,721 posted on 10/09/2007 6:36:21 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Tariffs were our primary funds for government. Generally speaking there’s always been debate on how high they should be.

I tend to favor low taxes on every level. Tariffs, income taxes, etc.


1,722 posted on 10/09/2007 6:38:14 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: Rick_Michael

THOMPSON SPANKED MATHEWS with the calling him out on tax cuts “cost’ the government.

Find it hard to believe people did not cheer when thompson said the line about money in your own pocket. Must have been his delivery.


1,723 posted on 10/09/2007 6:40:54 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Rick_Michael

““Agreed, the media age of politics pretty much forces this, though the Clinton candidacy might be a notable exception.”

Is he the exception or the rule?

I tend to think Bill won based on two things...Perot and his ‘slick’ appearance.

Sorry, I should have clarified - the all new Clinton Candidacy, as in Hillary.

Bill was certainly good on TV for the some of the populace, at least some of which vote based on vibes and personality rather than anything substantial. He certainly would be the rule imho.


1,724 posted on 10/09/2007 6:40:54 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: longtermmemmory

“NOTE: Thompson does have his american flag pin.”

haha...I remember there was a debate over that. The flag pin. Apparently it’s a big deal..dems aren’t wearing them and many repubs are. Silly stuff.

If you don’t want to wear it...who cares!?


1,725 posted on 10/09/2007 6:41:00 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: Paperdoll

To answer your rather snide question, Rep. Hunter is ranking Republican on the House Armed Services Committee, formerly its chairman for four years.

@@@@

I stand corrected. I respect Hunter’s views, and forgot that the was/is on the Armed Services Committee.

Snide is in the mind of the reader. I want the ticket to be Romney/Hunter or Hunter for SecDef.


1,726 posted on 10/09/2007 6:41:29 PM PDT by maica (Where will Americans go for treatment, when we get a Canadian-style “free” healthcare system?)
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To: Rick_Michael

Anyone that has ever been in the TV business will tell you that blue comes accross best on TV. But look at the cut of his shirt collar. It looks like a casual shirt. It is not the color, it is the cut.


1,727 posted on 10/09/2007 6:41:44 PM PDT by AGreatPer
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To: WoofDog123

I don’t consider myself ultra-conservative, but I do have a few friends that started-off in college...voting Clinton and then regretting that years down the road. Clinton does sometimes APPEAR moderate, but once one really looks into it, he’s everything but that.

Hillary will win or lose based on two things: Iraq and her contender.


1,728 posted on 10/09/2007 6:43:43 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: AGreatPer

I just find it funny that people look at this shirt. Maybe I’m stereotyping men as not caring about such, but perhaps that’s just me.


1,729 posted on 10/09/2007 6:44:36 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: longtermmemmory

What the heck was McCain talking about that tariffs lead to WWII????

Talk about blame America first!

our tariffs created Hitler? Forced him to invade France? We created Mussolini? We forced an invasion into England? Oh and a Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor?

What is that man smoking?

I am sick of America being blamed for the rest of the world’s lack of Free Enterprise and ability to enrich themselves......


1,730 posted on 10/09/2007 6:45:42 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (When will the leftist elites finally award Bill Clinton with the Nobel "Piece" Prize?)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Romney sounds really good. Guiliani did well. Thompson (we came into the debate...about 1/2 way) did well. Tancredo had some really great answers...Huckabee too.

I just want to say one thing though...DUNCAN HUNTER HAS "HUEVOS." I have waited and waited to hear a candidate say it like it is...with truth, clarity, and passion. It's fabulously refreshing.

And...I'd like to say something else...I'M VERY HAPPY WITH 98% OF OUR CANDIDATES. They answer each question with intelligent, knowledgeable responses. I'm VERY proud.

1,731 posted on 10/09/2007 6:46:13 PM PDT by NordP (If illegal alien = "undocumented immigrant" then drug dealer = "unlicensed pharmacist")
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To: CAluvdubya

paul isn’t a truther.


1,732 posted on 10/09/2007 6:46:41 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: WoofDog123

In many ways, Clinton was liked by many precisely because he was imperfect and seemed sympathetic. Like any good con man he knew how to win people over.


1,733 posted on 10/09/2007 6:47:08 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: longtermmemmory
I might donate money to Thompson again IF he would commit to spending the money on a new taylor

Not only on a taylor, but he needs to spend money on a tailor, too.

1,734 posted on 10/09/2007 6:47:12 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: CAluvdubya
Sorry, I mixed up your post with the BKerr’s post above.

Disregard it.

1,735 posted on 10/09/2007 6:47:36 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Tennessean4Bush

now RonPaul, silly party....

(monty python reference)

Ronpaul is a complete nutjob. This is one naked emperor.


1,736 posted on 10/09/2007 6:49:02 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Wow, I feel more hopeful after reading many of these posts that seem to indicate most people will vote for the Republican who ever it is.


1,737 posted on 10/09/2007 6:49:15 PM PDT by willk
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To: eeevil conservative

I think his perspective was a bit twisted. But surely the short end to world war one, and the punitive penalties on german....the versaille treaty...definitely made fertile ground for Hitler’s movement. But I suppose he could have done so regardless.

I tend to think we shouldn’t have entered world war I...for many reasons. I could share them, if you wish. Our entrance in the second war was absolutely necessary.


1,738 posted on 10/09/2007 6:49:51 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: Rick_Michael
Bill won on the likability factor. Old Bush seemed too old and out of touch, especially when he didn't know what a scanner in a grocery store was for. Perot divided the party (as planned) and William Safire told the true conservatives to teach the Republicans "a lesson"--hold-your-nose and vote for Bill. (That was quite a lesson we learned, and apparently have forgotten.)

The weekend before the election, people decide whom they think is more likable--the person they can stand to watch on tv for four years, the person they could have a conversation or a beer with. Bill beat GHW Bush and was more approachable than Bob Dole. W. was friendlier than Gore and Kerry (both born-to-the-manor uptight arrogant elitists). Notice how the press is now talking about how people are "warming up" to Hillary? Notice the charming "laugh" (a/k/a "cackle")? The Republicans need to nominate the person who is more likable than Hillary (which should have been pretty darn easy until the MSM started re-inventing her).

1,739 posted on 10/09/2007 6:49:51 PM PDT by MHT
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To: traviskicks

LOL!!

RP doing what he always does.....just attack Bush.....

we went into Iraq without his blessing and he is still pitching a fit......a petulant child in a never-ending fit......

you’ll love the part when he says he will not support the Republican Nominee.....


1,740 posted on 10/09/2007 6:49:54 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (When will the leftist elites finally award Bill Clinton with the Nobel "Piece" Prize?)
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