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Why Democrats Must Lie To Win (Rush Mentions Free Republic Alert)
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 10/08/2007 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 10/08/2007 4:05:23 PM PDT by goldstategop

RUSH: I had some rudimentary information on this two weeks ago, and it wasn't enough for me to trust going with. But since then, it has been verified, and most of it's been verified by a "Freeper" at Free Republic. Everybody is writing about this now, since the Freeper posted it over the weekend. This 12-year-old kid that the Democrats used in the Saturday radio address to whine and moan and cry to President Bush about the S-CHIP children's health program, it turns out that the family of this kid sends its kids to "one of Baltimore's expensive private schools." This family owns a house in a neighborhood of homes valued in the $400,000 to $500,000 range. This family bought commercial property in 1999 for $160,000.

This is Graeme Frost, the 12-year-old, and Frost's father is self-employed. He owns the building in which he works. His father makes about $45,000 a year while his mother is employed is at an unspecified salary by a medical publishing house that doesn't provide health insurance coverage. Bottom line. This is from Mark Tapscott, who is an editorial page editor at the Washington Examiner, has been tracking all this on the blogs. "Two points. First, people make choices and it's clear the Frosts have made choice to invest in property and a business, but not in private health insurance. The Maryland-administered version of the federal SCHIP program, by the way, does not impose an asset test on applicants." It's one of the states where you have no asset test, so anybody can be part of the program! What the Democrats did: "President Bush used his regular Saturday radio address yesterday to explain and defend his veto of the massive expansion of the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) approved last week by Congress. ... An hour later on national radio, the Democrats' response to Bush was delivered by Baltimore private middle school student Graeme Frost, who along with his sister was seriously injured in an auto accident three years ago.

"His response to Bush was actually recorded earlier in the week and Matthew Hay Brown, a reporter from The Baltimore Sun, interviewed the young man after he did his recording. Frost said his parents work hard to provide for him and his sister but one thing they can't afford is private health insurance, so they have to depend upon the government program, Brown reported for The Sun. Perfect illustration of why the SCHIP program should be expanded, right? Actually, no, because the Sun only reported the Democratic version of the story and we can't depend upon a mainstream media outlet like the Sun to get the rest of the story." Well, the rest of the story is: "It turns out the Frost family sends its kids to one of Baltimore's expensive private schools, owns a house in a neighborhood of homes valued in the $400,000-500,000 range and bought commercial property in 1999 for $160,000." What's the upshot of all this? This is nothing new. The Democrats lie! They have to in order to make their case. What was seductive to them was that this young man and his sister were severely injured in an auto accident, and they didn't have private insurance. "That's all we needed. That's all. Just smear the president. That's all we needed. We don't need any other details, because we know that our buddies in the mainstream media are not going to uncover the details, and if they do uncover 'em, they're not going to report 'em -- and when they do get uncovered a couple weeks later, a day later, the story is already ours. We already own it."

So the bottom line for me is: they can't rely on truth to make their case for their cause. They have to lie. Be it about me, be it about their own voters (such as the Frosts) be it about President Bush, they must lie -- and anybody who stands in the way of their succeeding with that lie becomes an enemy, becomes a target. That's where I and my buddies in talk radio come in. We are a thorn in their side because we represent the truth they are trying to hide, the truth that they are lying about, and they have to do something about it -- and they have to do that by lying. The truth will not help 'em. The truth is inconvenient to today's Democrat Party and today's left. "Fiction" is their byword. Make it up. Make sure people cry about it. Have a lot of emotion attached to the fiction, and have no guilt about it. "Once you get past the lying, the rest is easy," is their philosophy. The kid, Graeme Frost, in one of his radio addresses, asked the question: "Why doesn't President Bush want children to have health care?" They send the kid out to lie. They filled this kid's head with lies just as they have some of these soldiers about me. Put lies in the kid's head or put it on the script that he's reading. He goes out and reads it. He's 12 years old! They will use anybody! They'll corrupt anybody, to get where they're headed. That's who they are, folks.


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KEYWORDS: 2008; baltimoresun; biglie; democraticparty; democratparty; democrats; drivebymedia; fakebutaccurate; fiction; freepers; freerepublic; frost; graemefrost; healthinsurance; liberalism; msm; nannystate; rushlimbaugh; schip
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To: icwhatudo

It’s growing legs. Ya done good.


61 posted on 10/08/2007 5:19:19 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: goldstategop

Nice of Rush to acknowledge his show-prep source...


62 posted on 10/08/2007 5:21:45 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Have you developed your 2008 bug-out plan?)
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To: TexasCajun

I imagine the Frost’s auto insurance limits were too low to cover all the expenses. I checked the Maryland insurance commissioner’s website and Maryland only requires 20/40 bodily injury and uninsured motorist, and $2500 in personal injury protection. That amount wouldn’t cover severe injuries for very long, and I highly doubt the Frosts sprang for more than the minimum. Irresponsible people are generally irresponsible in many areas of their lives, and any way you cut it, a middle class couple with four children who don’t have at least a high-deductible, catastrophic health policy is irresponsible.

Once again, the responsible, mature members of our society who consistently make intelligent, thoughtful choices get to pay for themselves AND for the irresponsible, immature members of society who consistently make stupid, impetuous choices. And yet somehow, the Dems think they’re the party of “fairness.”


63 posted on 10/08/2007 5:23:05 PM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: LadyNavyVet

I hope this company offers health insurance. The Frosts’ not having health insurance coverage with four children is totally irresponsible.

http://www.kaufmanwills.com/section.cfm?id=24

Bonnie Frost

In 2007, Bonnie joined the Kaufman-Wills Group as an associate conducting various market research projects, compiling competitive journal profiles, developing and maintaining databases, and helping to manage company operations. A graduate of Towson University, Bonnie’s previous work experience includes bookkeeping and operations management for Frostworks, Inc., as well as curriculum writing, admissions work, and teaching preschool and kindergarten at First English Lutheran Preschool in Baltimore.


64 posted on 10/08/2007 5:31:17 PM PDT by khnyny (It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it..Aristotle)
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To: OSHA

Thanks for wading through the filth at DU so I don’t have to. What a weak, transparent strawman the “picking on a 12-year-old” is. Nobody’s attacking the 12-year-old. The poor child is a victim of his parents and the Dems. It is they who should be ashamed of using an injured child to further their political agenda.


65 posted on 10/08/2007 5:32:32 PM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: OSHA

Y’know, it’s been a while since I lurked on DU and now I remember why. What a bunch of mean-spirited hypocrites.


66 posted on 10/08/2007 5:36:48 PM PDT by jdsteel (proud member of "Mothers And Children Against Criminal Aliens")
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To: DocRock
Consider it done, Doc. You're on your own with the rest. Maybe another enterprising freeper can help out. There's a fairly comprehensive list HERE

Again, good work...

67 posted on 10/08/2007 5:40:53 PM PDT by ProfoundMan (Money is the mother's milk of politics but righteous indignation is the drug of choice.)
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To: SauronOfMordor
...like another self-employed guy I know, who makes lots of money in his business, but makes everything he can a "business expense", so that his official taxable salary is low...

Well, yeah, but I can't fault the guy for that. Government tax law is so ridiculous that a self-employed person has to gross probaby (my guess, but a decent one) $35 an hour to reap the same as a corporate employee whose gross salary is tabulated at $22 an hour.

That this piece of scum has no more ethics than to take advantage of SCHIFF and then to allow his kid to be used as a shill, is contemptible from a personal.

You'd think a guy who supporting his family and making a nice living doing what he loved in a free market would comprehend the value of honor? Yipes. Sad to say that while I love to think business owners are by nature and inclination honorably conservative, my real-world experience has proven that it's not true. It's more 50-50, shockingly, though I may be wrong -- just anectodal. A woman I admired for her business guts in running a small business, was a liberal. Eventually I observed over time that she payed her employees very meanly, gave raises begrudgingly, failed to deliver on promises of health insurance and retirement (I never asked for them, so don't look at me), and eventually cheated at wage payment enough to get nailed by the Employment Board (yes, you can look at me). Yet this woman was outraged that anyone could be a Republican, against minimum wage -- why Republicans hate the little guy! I never did because I didn't care, but had I asked her to increase my own <$10/hr wage by the same amount as the recent rise in minimum wage, she'd have been astonished that I could even suggest such a thing!

68 posted on 10/08/2007 5:42:33 PM PDT by Finny ( Only credulous saps buy man-caused global warming.)
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To: ProfoundMan
Thanks. I fired it off to Michelle Malkin and Sean Hannity. I’ll start using the list you posted. Nice resource! Again, thanks.
69 posted on 10/08/2007 5:45:13 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 ... Go ahead, look it up!)
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To: LadyNavyVet
Thanks for wading through the filth at DU so I don’t have to. What a weak, transparent strawman the “picking on a 12-year-old” is. Nobody’s attacking the 12-year-old. The poor child is a victim of his parents and the Dems. It is they who should be ashamed of using an injured child to further their political agenda.

Reminiscent of the left's friend's tactics. You know the ones - the ones who strap the bombs around the the little kid and then send them off in to 'paradise'.

70 posted on 10/08/2007 5:45:45 PM PDT by uptoolate
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To: goldstategop

The political Left has been chipping away at our right of free speech for decades. When our right to free speech is gone, what’s left?


71 posted on 10/08/2007 5:46:41 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: goldstategop

And the truth keep us free. Great work again!


72 posted on 10/08/2007 5:47:48 PM PDT by bmwcyle (BOMB, BOMB, BOMB,.......BOMB, BOMB IRAN)
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To: EdReform

swiftboating (adj.) - 1. Telling the truth about a Democrat.


73 posted on 10/08/2007 5:48:25 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: goldstategop

BUMP! Rush is almost always right!


74 posted on 10/08/2007 5:48:28 PM PDT by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN OLD FEMALE FREEPER! and a FredHEAD!)
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To: wastedyears

So let’s get this straight. All of the taxpayers in America are supposed to chip in to pay for health insurance for kids like this, whose parents pay $20,000 for private schooling? My response is no thanks.

To what extent will the working, productive, responsible people be expected to pay to support the idiots?


75 posted on 10/08/2007 5:55:37 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: goldstategop

bump


76 posted on 10/08/2007 5:59:15 PM PDT by Bob Eimiller (appeasement "it's the idea that if you feed the alligator he will eat you last." Winston Churchill)
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To: wastedyears

So let’s get this straight. All of the taxpayers in America are supposed to chip in to pay for health insurance for kids like this, whose parents pay $20,000 for private schooling? My response is no thanks.

To what extent will the working, productive, responsible people be expected to pay to support the idiots?


77 posted on 10/08/2007 6:03:52 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: Right Cal Gal

Me thinks that the IRS will be looking into how this family bought all of these life luxuries on a paupers salary.

LLS


78 posted on 10/08/2007 6:08:04 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: popdonnelly

I have no idea, Pop.


79 posted on 10/08/2007 6:14:14 PM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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To: goldstategop

Phoney poor.


80 posted on 10/08/2007 6:14:18 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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