Did this group consult the Allied Atheist Allegiance to get their take? There could be drama if they didn't!
Posted on 10/03/2007 10:15:01 AM PDT by jacknhoo
Religion Must Be Destroyed, Atheist Alliance Declares By Matt Purple CNSNews.com Correspondent October 03, 2007
(CNSNews.com) - Science must ultimately destroy organized religion, according to some of the leading atheist writers and intellectuals who spoke at a recent atheist conference in Northern Virginia. God is a myth, and children must not be schooled in any faith, they said, at the "Crystal Clear Atheism" event, sponsored by the Atheist Alliance International.
Some of the luminaries who spoke at the conference, held at the Crown Royal Hotel in Crystal City, Va., over the weekend, included Oxford professor Richard Dawkins, author Sam Harris and journalist Christopher Hitchens. The Atheist Alliance International describes itself as "the only democratic national atheist organization in the United States."
While most attendees on Friday night were adamant that God was a myth, the convention, attended by hundreds of people, brought into focus a divide among atheists as to their identity as a movement and the nature of the enemy they faced.
In his speech, Dawkins portrayed a black-and-white intellectual battle between atheism and religion. He denounced the "preposterous nonsense of religious customs" and compared religion to racism. He also gave no quarter to moderate or liberal believers, asserting that "so-called moderate Christianity is simply an evasion."
"If you've been taught to believe it by moderates, what's to stop you from taking the next step and blowing yourself up?" he said.
By contrast, Harris's speech was a more tempered critique of the atheist movement itself. While Harris said he believed science must ultimately destroy religion, he also discussed spirituality and mysticism and called for a greater understanding of allegedly spiritual phenomena. He also cautioned the audience against lumping all religions together.
"The refrain that all religions have their extremists is bull-t," Harris said. "All religions do not have their extremists. Some religions have never had their extremists."
Specifically, he noted that radical Islam was far more threatening than any radical Christian sect, adding that Christians had a right to be outraged when the media treated the two religions similarly.
Harris also criticized movement atheism and questioned the use of the word "atheist."
"Atheism is not a philosophy, just as non-racism is not," he said. "It is not a worldview, though it is frequently portrayed as one.
"Rather than declare ourselves atheists, I think we should emphasize reason," Harris added.
While the audience gave Dawkins a standing ovation, Harris received only polite applause. One questioner later declared herself "very disappointed" in Harris's talk.
But whatever differences the speakers had with each other, they were united in their contempt for religion and their belief that religious faith had to be challenged and ridiculed by secularism and reason.
"Religion is not the root of all evil, but it gets in the way of [determining] how we got here and where we find ourselves," Dawkins said. "And that is an evil in itself."
Dawkins was particularly critical of parents who raise their children as a "Catholic child" or "Protestant child." Children must not be labeled as subscribing to a particular religion, he said, and should be allowed to examine the evidence and determine their beliefs for themselves.
"If I said that's a post-modernist child, for example, you'd think I was mad," he quipped.
Other speakers at the convention included philosopher Daniel Dennett, evolutionary scientist Eugenie Scott, and Charles Darwin's great-great-grandson Matthew Chapman. There was also a performance by atheist rapper Greydon Square, who wore a shirt that read "The Black Carl Sagan."
Many of the attendees seemed to have developed an aversion to religion from conservative, Protestant Christians. Several of the atheists Cybercast News Service spoke to complained of living under fundamentalist parents who frowned upon any questioning of the Bible or any activity condemned in Scripture.
"It wasn't easy [telling my parents I was an atheist]," one said. "I still haven't entirely told them. I just say I'm a humanist, which they don't seem to mind."
Further emphasizing the attendees' distaste for conservative religion was the convention gift shop which, in addition to atheist materials, sold politically liberal-themed bumper stickers and pins, including "Impeach Bush" and "Stewart/Colbert '08."
A common decoration at the convention was the red letter "A," which was emblazoned on t-shirts and pins worn by several of the attendees. The "A," an allusion to Hester Prynne's punishment in Nathaniel Hawthorne's The Scarlet Letter, is a symbol of the Out Campaign, a movement started by Dawkins to encourage Americans to proudly display their atheism.
Although Crystal Clear Atheism was well-attended, it received little publicity and media attention. The convention also experienced frequent technical difficulties, particularly during Dawkins' Powerpoint slideshow.
Atheists are still a small minority in America. A Newsweek poll earlier this year found that 91 percent of Americans believe in God. A more recent Pew Research Center poll found that atheists were among the most distrusted people in the nation, with 53 percent of Americans holding an unfavorable opinion of them.
But they are a proudly elitist and self-certain minority. When asked what the main difference between believers and atheists was, Dawkins had a quick answer: "Well, we're bright."
This must have been a gathering of the outreach arm of the Atheist Alliance. :)
Seriously, though, if there is no God, then why be worried about having to destroy religion? The earthly answer is that it interferes with their vision of a socialist utopia.
Not all atheists are socialists, mind you, but the movement is being used to that end. It’s sad that the people who bemoan the “oppression” that religion brings will be the oppressors if given the chance. History proves this.
“Jews are religious by birth. How ya’ gonna make that omelet?Hmmmmmmmmmm?”
Not sure why you posted this to me, but I’ll take a stab at it.....
Jews aren’t religious by birth, that’s an individual decision one must make....And I have no idea wht the omoelet comment means.....
When asked what the main difference between believers and atheists was, Dawkins had a quick answer: "Well, we're bright."
Well maybe atheists just have a weakness in the ability to use computers.
LOL Einstein believed in God and its his work in physics that Atheist hang their hat on to say there is no God. Most of them are not fit, intellectually, to lick Einsteins shoes but because he believes in God hes not bright?
Look out or you will be accused of believing in Intelligent Design or Creation — the ultimate heresy to the fanatical evolutionists amongst us.
That's just it - there's NOTHING to prevent a person, raised, schooled, and indoctrinated in atheism, from being utterly selfish and evil.
Yes yes, I know, atheists such as many here on FR argue that you can be moral and be an atheist, which is true. It is true because they, as atheists, are ethical scavengers - glomming onto the moral/ethical system of Judeo-Christianity. Without that initial cultural and societal overlay, the atheist has no checks on his or her behaviour.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
And the conclusion therefore must be that militant atheism, which decries killing and oppression but implicitly promises to commit more of the same, is as bad as any religion, and probably more arrogant and hypocritical.
"Christians can work PowerPoint."
This is what personally have observed. A lot of angry atheists (because not all atheists are angry) believe that they were brought up in strict, ultra-devout, 'Puritanical' Christian families. Something happened, and now they have an axe to grind against Christians and Christianity.
Ironically, those atheists do not seem to see that they've picked atheism not out of reason or rational deliberation, but out of anger and hate toward what they believe is Christianity.
During America’s early years, when Thomas Paine went on a similar anti-Christian crusade, Ben Franklin told him, “Tom, when a man spits into the wind, he spits in his own face.”
My personal observations have been that the unbelieving tend to have formerly been Catholics. I guess it all depends on where you live.
Atheism is just a survival strategy to perpetuate Dawkins’ selfish genes.
1. Where did the matter that makes up the Universe come from and when did it first exist?
2. If the Universe is infinite, describe "infinity" in scientific detail. If the Universe is not infinite, what lies beyond it's borders?
3. If the Second Law of Thermodynamics states that complex systems eventually become simpler systems, how did life (an inarguably more complex and fragile system than non-life) begin, overcome entropy and flourish?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Did this group consult the Allied Atheist Allegiance to get their take? There could be drama if they didn't!
“Science must ultimately destroy organized religion, according to some of the leading atheist writers and intellectuals...”
Science can destroy a lot of things, but when all the dust is settled faith will still be there.
My oldest daughter (who is 23) has run that 'I don't believe in God' line by me on a few occasions and my answer is always the same -
'That's OK kid, He believes in you'.
I wonder why people who don’t believe in the afterlife, waste their time on Earth on something like this.
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