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MADD plans to go on patrol for DUIs
St. Petersburg Times (tampabay.com) ^ | September 29, 2007 | ABBIE VANSICKLE

Posted on 10/01/2007 6:37:03 PM PDT by elkfersupper

TAMPA - Had a few drinks before getting behind the wheel?

Think again. That harmless-looking minivan in the rearview mirror might be the neighbors on patrol.

That's how Mothers Against Drunk Driving pitched its latest plan to get impaired drivers off the roads.

Called the Traffic Observation Program, the pilot program is slated to begin in Hillsborough County and may become a statewide initiative, according to Don Murray, Florida's executive director for MADD.

The plan: Recruit 20 volunteers armed with donated cell phones and send them out in the middle of the night to watch for telltale signs of drunk drivers.

MADD has worked closely with the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office, so Murray suggested to other MADD members that the pilot program begin here.

Murray envisions a program that will pair up community members who are willing to go through a screening process, including a criminal background check and an interview to ensure that those going out on the streets have proper training and experience.

He wanted to make it clear that volunteers will not be acting like law enforcement.

"This isn't like a vigilante program," he said. "They won't be attempting to stop or in any way interacting with these vehicles. They're basically just observers."

Volunteers will go out in teams. They will drive their own vehicles and take GPS equipment, so they'll be able to find their way through unfamiliar areas for two to four hours of searching, Murray said. They'll be told ahead of time of the sometimes-subtle clues for drunk drivers, such as driving under the speed limit or lingering too long at a green light, Murray said.

"We certainly don't want our observers to be calling erroneous reports in," he said.

If participants spot a suspicious driver, they will jot down the license plate, a vehicle description and a location and notify the Sheriff's Office. It's up to the deputy to check out the vehicle to determine whether an arrest is appropriate, Murray said.

The program was Murray's idea, he said, inspired by worries of what potential budget cuts could do to law enforcement's DUI teams.

"They'll likely lose officers from the road," he said. "We were looking ahead to try to see what our organization can do."

Hillsborough sheriff's Cpl. Stephen Decatur said the program is just a formalized process for what already happens everyday: People call law enforcement when they see something suspicious.

He praised the idea, but he cautioned that it's vital that volunteers don't try to do the work of law enforcement in apprehending and accusing suspects.

"If anybody's overzealous, if they play outside the guidelines, then they're acting above and beyond just being observers," he said. "We want them to do it in a responsible manner, and it looks like the program is set up to do that."

Tampa police Cpl. Jared Douds had much the same reaction. It sounded like a Neighborhood Watch group for the roadways.

"Obviously anything that's going to get drunk drivers off the road, we're interested in," Douds. "That's certainly a positive for everybody."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: cellphoneequals08; dui; dwi; madd; neoprohibition
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It worried me when these kooks were allowed to write the legislation.

It worried me more when they kept dialing down what constitutes DUI.

It began to bother me a whole bunch when they succeeded in getting these infernal roadblocks going and getting the primary seatbelt laws passed.

When they started showing up to "observe" roadblocks, hearings and trials, I became outraged.

Now, they're being sanctioned by law enforcement to go on patrol.

What could possibly go wrong?

1 posted on 10/01/2007 6:37:08 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Gabz; CSM; JTN; VRing; traviskicks; inneroutlaw

Ping.


2 posted on 10/01/2007 6:38:32 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

I’ve had more trouble with cell phone users than drinkers....especially the gabby girlz and their parent provided vehicles.


3 posted on 10/01/2007 6:39:22 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Life was better when cigarette companies could advertise and lawyers could not)
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To: elkfersupper

Molly is back. Prohibition 2.0


4 posted on 10/01/2007 6:39:38 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (In regards to Ron Paul, Please see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1889318/posts)
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To: elkfersupper
Ve vill report you to the authorities for the common good!
5 posted on 10/01/2007 6:42:06 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (Sorry Mr. BOR.)
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To: elkfersupper

You forget the potential humor value. There is a neighborhood activist in the DFW area that filmed the drunks that were leaveing clubs and going into the neighborhoods. The videos are Internet Classics.

www.barkingdogs.org


6 posted on 10/01/2007 6:43:03 PM PDT by Starwolf
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To: elkfersupper
Time to have fun with these dummies....

Unleash the designated decoys, and let the games begin. :)

7 posted on 10/01/2007 6:44:44 PM PDT by meyer (Illegal Immigration - The profits are privatized, the costs are socialized.)
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To: elkfersupper
Wouldn’t it be ironic if one of these observers causes a deadly accident? Is the road really any safer with these extra vehicles on it? What about fuel consumption?
8 posted on 10/01/2007 6:45:54 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: elkfersupper

They will do more harm than good.


9 posted on 10/01/2007 6:47:03 PM PDT by CaptRon (Pedicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: elkfersupper

Agreed.

Once upon a time they were worthy of some sympathy but their emotion driven legislation and constant harangues has taken sympathy out of the equation.


10 posted on 10/01/2007 6:47:23 PM PDT by relictele
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To: elkfersupper
They'll be told ahead of time of the sometimes-subtle clues for drunk drivers, such as driving under the speed limit or lingering too long at a green light, Murray said.

"We certainly don't want our observers to be calling erroneous reports in," he said.

Drunk driving can cause many tragedies, but this could get a lot of innocent people in trouble for no reason.

11 posted on 10/01/2007 6:49:22 PM PDT by OCC
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To: elkfersupper

I salute their grassroots activism. But they need to know that they are dealing with drunks. And drunks are notoriously unpredictable and easily angered. I can see this turning out badly about the time some biker wino gets tired of Safety Sandy tailing him, pulls the car over, and drags Sandy out for a boozy come-ta-Jezuz. For cripes’ sake, these guys will often fight armed, trained cops. They aren’t going to have much trouble drawing down on some plump hausfrau who’s playing Gladys Kravitz.


12 posted on 10/01/2007 6:49:26 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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He praised the idea, but he cautioned that it's vital that volunteers don't try to do the work of law enforcement in apprehending and accusing suspects.

They will,and in their zeal they will poison any possible prosecution.

13 posted on 10/01/2007 6:50:44 PM PDT by CaptRon (Pedicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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"This isn't like a vigilante program," he said. "They won't be attempting to stop or in any way interacting with these vehicles. They're basically just observers."

It's funny how the Minutemen were vigilantes yet these folks are not.

14 posted on 10/01/2007 6:50:48 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering '09 * Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat * Fred in 2008)
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To: elkfersupper
They'll be told ahead of time of the sometimes-subtle clues for drunk drivers, such as driving under the speed limit or lingering too long at a green light, Murray said.

ATTENTION HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY RESIDENTS: As you drive around your community not exceeding the posted speed limits and ensuring an intersection is clear before entering it, please report any suspicious vehicles that follow you to the Hillsborough County Sheriff's office. Thank you for your cooperation.

15 posted on 10/01/2007 6:50:57 PM PDT by AF_Blue (Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus)
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To: IronJack
I salute their grassroots activism.

Better not cut one of them off in traffic, or "steal" "their" parking place at the mall or grocery store.

You and yours will be in for a world of hurt.

16 posted on 10/01/2007 6:52:39 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; nopardons; metesky; Mears; ...

Nanny State Ping.........

I enjoy my beer as much as the next gal, and I want to keep drunk drivers off the road as much as anyone, but I’m sorry -— this is over the top in my opinion.


17 posted on 10/01/2007 6:56:27 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: elkfersupper

last time I read about a group doing this, there were incidents of “revenge reports”. Observers were getting back at someone for a personal vendetta.

MADD has outlived its usefulness.

Apparently there (paid) promotional effort for breath interlock devices has failed.

The founding mother of MADD quit long ago due to the organizations excessive focus of money over cause.


18 posted on 10/01/2007 6:57:03 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: elkfersupper

Isn’t this vigilantism? Sure sounds like it to me.


19 posted on 10/01/2007 6:59:33 PM PDT by calex59
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To: elkfersupper
Don't drink and drive. They won't have any means of bothering you.
20 posted on 10/01/2007 7:02:28 PM PDT by Myrddin
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