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Father Waylays Daughter's Lover
Manchester Union Leader ^ | September 22, 2007 | Greta Cuyler

Posted on 09/22/2007 6:21:10 AM PDT by Jim Noble

WEARE – A father attacked his daughter's boyfriend last week after learning the boy had sex with the underage girl, police said.

It was about 1:30 p.m. Monday, Sept. 10, when the man stormed onto the grounds of John J. Stark High School and beat up the 17-year-old from Henniker. School was just letting out, and many students witnessed the attack, said Detective Lou Chatel.

The boy suffered bruising and later received two stitches to his face.

The father was charged with simple assault, a Class B felony.

Police said the boy is dating the man's 15-year-old daughter.

The man discovered the two had had sex earlier that day, during school hours but not on school property, police said.

Under state law, a 15-year-old cannot consent to sex; therefore, police are investigating the allegation as a sexual assault.

The New Hampshire Union Leader has a policy of not identifying sexual assault victims. For that reason, the newspaper is not identifying the father.

Both students attend John Stark High School. The girl lives in Weare.

Chatel said there have been no arrests in the sex case, but he expects there will be.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: assault; attaboy; fatherhood; gogethim; waytobedad
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To: VaBthang4
Sure I did!

But enough trying to reason with folks. Here's a picture of a kitty.

181 posted on 09/22/2007 9:24:23 AM PDT by Chanticleer (I want God, I want Poetry, I want real danger, I want freedom, I want goodness, I want sin.)
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To: All

Another case for the strict enforcers:

If two fifteen year-olds have a sexual relationship of several months (it happens), then one turns sixteen while the other is six or more months younger.

Should the now sixteen year-old be prosecuted to the full extent of the law for statutory rape?


182 posted on 09/22/2007 9:25:28 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Chanticleer

183 posted on 09/22/2007 9:25:59 AM PDT by StephenTX
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To: bannie
 

It might be interesting to find out which of the posters are parents to just daughters; daughters and sons; or just sons.

 

I would like to find out which of the posters had sex before they were 18 .Are they hypocrites and condemning the boy to something that they did or are they still mad that they didn't get any

184 posted on 09/22/2007 9:28:56 AM PDT by grjr21
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To: grjr21
Parents are exempt from the hypocrite rule. Learning from ones’ mistakes is a plus.
185 posted on 09/22/2007 9:32:31 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Will88

Yes,,,and since we also have four sons,,,it would have been taken care of in short order,,,Be afraid of my Dad,be more afraid of my brothers..We will88 have a close family..


186 posted on 09/22/2007 9:33:33 AM PDT by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken, there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: Will88
Do you really want tens, or even hundreds of thousands of teens sent to prison every year? No. I'd rather they followed the law.

We obviously need to address laws governing of underage sex and probably make some adjustments for certain age differences, etc. However, I think that is a discussion for another time as we could fill up many threads on that alone.

Now, back to the article . . . the young man committed a crime, the father committed a crime. Put each in front of a jury and let's see what comes of this situation.

I have two teen sons - if either were the young man in this situation I would be furious at them rather than the father who beat them. In fact, I would do my best to convince the girl's father that we would not press assault charges and I would pull my son from that school and forbid any contact with the girl ever again. Then I would pray the DA/judge showed leniency toward my son for his crime.

187 posted on 09/22/2007 9:33:36 AM PDT by DesertSapper (Republican . . . for now.)
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To: jude24

There are degrees. Most states have a 3-5 year disparity written into the law. A 2 year disparity is rare, and in my opinion very problematic.

In some states the age disparity portion of the law changes once one party is over age 18.

The intent of age of consent laws are to protect the YOUNGER pesron in the situation. If both are under 18 but over, say 13, I don’t think it should be a felony.

But it is up to the voters in each state has to come up with their own laws ... and parents should be fully aware of those laws and make sure their children know them. And make sure their children know that they will support the LAW in case the child breaks it.

How many parents don’t let their kids know that they will support the LAW in other areas? For example, “If you drink and drive and get caught, I’ll support the LAW being enforced against you” Or “If you commit vandalism or steal, I’ll support the LAW, being enforced against you.”

Very few parents, I think, make that clear to their kids. The kids are spoiled and think their parents will bail them out of any situation.


188 posted on 09/22/2007 9:34:09 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Chanticleer

Thanks. A hat tip to you also.


189 posted on 09/22/2007 9:34:51 AM PDT by daviscupper
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To: Will88

I don’t think there is a state with laws that criminalize that situation (age disparity of 6 months). If you know of one, would you let me know?


190 posted on 09/22/2007 9:37:28 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Will88

I don’t think there is a state with laws that criminalize that situation (age disparity of 6 months). If you know of one, would you let me know?


191 posted on 09/22/2007 9:37:41 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Chanticleer

Just get a couple of fathers with daughters on the jury. He won’t be going to prison.


192 posted on 09/22/2007 9:40:05 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Chanticleer
Instead, I'd want him pushing the prosecutor to enforce the law while helping our daughter deal with the consequences of her actions.

OMG, a reasoned, rational response. Can't have that when dealing with our daughters donchaknow.

193 posted on 09/22/2007 9:41:21 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: El Gato
The police would probably laugh their asses off if you filed a statutory rape complaint with them.

Perhaps. The district attorney, on the other hand, is an elected official who has to face the voters periodically. If the police write off a complaintant, the DA may respond otherwise. Either way, taking the law into one's own hand and beating the boyfriend was not a legal option.

194 posted on 09/22/2007 9:44:05 AM PDT by RochesterFan
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To: DesertSapper

“Do you really want tens, or even hundreds of thousands of teens sent to prison every year? No. I’d rather they followed the law.”

Better to live in the real world than a fantasy world. They (teens) aren’t going to follow the law. In many cases, you’re talking about classmate dating, or kids only one or two years different in age who’ll fall above and below the age of consent.

I agree the law needs to be adjusted to address teens, probably enforced only if there is a three year or greater age difference. No law will be perfect, but that seems a reasonable point to pick for putting all the responsibility on the older of a couple, a couple that would only engage in entirely consensual sex.

I think nothing should be done to the kid in this case. Seventeen and fifteen; not much difference and girls do mature faster in the teen years, which makes the difference even less. Too many dads want their daughter to assume NO responsibility for their decisions.


195 posted on 09/22/2007 9:44:18 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88
Hmm. Not really seeing the difference between beating a 17 year old male up( in a lot of cases, this guy is cosidered a man ) for acting innapropriately and killing a female who has been raped( an "honor killing)" , are ya? The point of beating the 17 year old is two fold.
Point one- Punish the fellow who committed statuatory rape upon your daughter. She's 15 years old. He's 17. Unless there is a family bond with this guy ( which it sounds like there isnt), this guy is basically using his daughter for Sex. Its wrong.

Point two. Teach him a lesson. He should know its wrong and there are penalties to pay for doing wrong. Its unlikely the guys going to jail over it, or paying fines, or doing comunity service, but its wrong nonetheless and the guy deserves to be taught. I would guess this guy will no longer mess with the daughter without thinking it over very, very carefully. As a boneheaded guy who was once chased by a girls dad ( in his underwear and with a shotgun) , I guarantee, I learned more from my beatings than I ever learned from my successes in life. Men holding me immediately accountable for my bad behavior taught me a LOT. Hopefully, this young guy learns something about the sanctitiy of young females and the respect one should pay them.
Well, O.k - its threefold. Probably made the dad feel a lot better, although he;s going to now have to deal with some legal crud, and a daughter whose not happy with him.
At what point did it become bad for a dad to defend his daughter against men taking sexual advantage of her?

And for the eventual argument that "It takes two to tango" , she's a 15 year old girl. She;s not fully grown nor is she able to discern love from sex. An older guy is showing her attention to get into her pants.
I had three sisters growing up and saw it first hand.It causes problems that last years and possibly a lifetime for that girl, and a dad willing to take a stand to keep that from happening, is doing the right thing in my book.

I have two daughters now, and applaud this gentleman for his actions. He now needs to explain to the daughter why he did it and tell the young man he forgives him but will beat his little butt again if he tries to have sex with his underage daughter. Flame away. Ps- Yes I'm christian. I know I'm imperfect and should work on it. ;-)
196 posted on 09/22/2007 9:47:41 AM PDT by humantech ("No one wants to live to see such evil times. Its what you do with the time you are given")
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To: Jim Noble
Stark High Scool Schedule

Bell and Block Schedule (8:05 AM to 2:54 PM) Daily

Monday, September 10th they were scheduled to get out of school at 2:54.

According to the article, school was just getting out when the Dad attacked the kid and the Dad got there at 1:30. So this pssed off Dad was allowed to roam the school looking for this kid for almost an hour and a half? Hopefully the reporting of times is fouled up.

197 posted on 09/22/2007 9:48:03 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Lorianne

“I don’t think there is a state with laws that criminalize that situation (age disparity of 6 months). If you know of one, would you let me know?”

States where the age of consent is sixteen. That’s how the law is interpreted unless there are exceptions for age differences among teens.

Would you let me know of a state which makes distinctions for a few months above or below age of consent. I think you’ll find that the law is strictly written, but the prosecutors have broad discretion as to what to enforce and how strictly.


198 posted on 09/22/2007 9:49:34 AM PDT by Will88
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To: RGSpincich
Parents are exempt from the hypocrite rule. Learning from ones’ mistakes is a plus.

That is insightful and an interesting observation. I guess parents should be a little more understanding and compassionate toward their children. Experience tells us our children will make mistakes. And as parents we should find comfort in knowing that our children will also learn from their mistakes.

199 posted on 09/22/2007 9:50:08 AM PDT by daviscupper
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To: Jim Noble

The father acted in haste and will now regret at his own leisure. He should have arranged to borrow the dog http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1900576/posts


200 posted on 09/22/2007 9:50:25 AM PDT by Polynikes
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