Cashill: FBI suppressed video of TWA (800) explosion / Are feds hiding crash imagery?

WND ^ | 8/30 & 9/20 | Jack Cashilll

[cgk]

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FBI suppressed video of TWA explosion

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Posted: August 30, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern

Recovered debris from TWA 800

More than six years after retired United Airline captain Ray Lahr launched his Freedom of Information Act petition into the fate of TWA Flight 800, the FBI has shown him –likely by accident – one seriously smoking gun.

The Boeing 747 blew up off the coast of Long Island on July 17, 1996. One of the FBI documents received recently by Lahr and his attorney details a communication that took place six days after the crash:

"On Tuesday, July 23, 1996, a representative from the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) advised [the FBI] that after a visual analysis of both the videotape as well as a number of still photographs taken from various portions of the tape, the phenomenon captured by [redacted] appeared to be consistent with the exhaust plume from a MANPAD [Man-portable air-defense] missile."

"The FBI guy who looked at this must not have read it, or not have realized what it would reveal, Otherwise he would have redacted most of it as before."

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[StolarStorm]

I already mentioned how I knew. You are rude. Bye bye.

[mad_as_he$$]

That was the start of the “event”. When an Airbus hits wake turbulence the vert stab can go into oscillation and eventually break off. There are pictures of 587 at the rear and you can see the stab is completely gone and the attachment bolts are the only thing left. The show “Seconds from Disaster” (I think) does an hour on this and the corrective steps taken to solve the problem.

[ladyjane]

"We know for a fact that cameras and film were confiscated from many people on Long Island who took pictures of the explosion." ***** What alleged "fact" do you have for that statement.

There was a cocktail party on Long Island, I think the Hamptons but it was somewhere on the South Fork on the water. At that party someone took a photograph of it. There were lots of witnesses and at least one picture. The FBI came and took the pictures and the negatives. That is one incident that I know of.

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

“Paranoid ramblings”... “conspiracy theories”... is this stuff coming from a handbook? There has to be another, more creative way to belittle people.

[ml/nj]

What Coast Guard assets were in the area and why should they have been on guard for a terrorist missile launch?

Check out the Coast Guard's mission. Pay special attention to the parts about Maritime Security and National Defense. The Coast Guard not reacting is sort of like police doing nothing after learning of a bank robbery.

ML/NJ

[Lee'sGhost]

FWIW. I’m not ready to say it happened that way, but I certainly concede it’s possible.

[cgk]

I’m surprised this wasn’t just moved to Chat: Conspiracy or maybe the Smoky Backroom. It was removed from news, extended news & crime/corruption. I thought I was being quite fair.

[Lee'sGhost]

Refresh my memory. What was the basis upon which the Cardinal was resisting Klinton’s participation?

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

this makes people look like wackos.

On behalf of everybody who wants the truth about how those 230 citizens were killed to be known, what you think we look like couldn't be any more insignificant.

But it's nice of you to leave the sports threads to share that with us.

[buck61]

This conspiracy stuff is embarrassing.

If?/ claimed by the “government” of the USA many things are conspiracy, as the TWA, why do they lock the investigation away for forty years? Then when we are allowed to view it, half of it is redacted.
Example, JFK assassination?

[Lee'sGhost]

I wondered about that as well. Are they saying that someone tried to shoot it down five days earlier?

[azhenfud]

"Refresh my memory. Did anyone important die on that plane?"

All of them.

[MortMan]

Your guest is likely better than mine.

Well, with you not having seen my guest, I must assume yours is REALLY lousy. ;-P

Not to be overtly christian, but I wonder what BJ Clinton sold to the Devil... I'm not convinced he EVER had a soul.

[Perdogg]

Why don't you tell me what the truth is, please?

Let's see facts, not theories, and don't tell me you can't because the evidence is hidden in a warehouse in New Mexico.

That's all I want. If you can show me a missile downed the plane, I will support you and your cause, but don't give me loose change logic.

[CodeMasterPhilzar]

Excuse me, but the "proof" brought up in the post is borderline, no, not even that... Just plain ridiculous. A maybe event 5 days before is a link? Ha.

I'm perfectly willing to learn any new evidence either supporting or rebutting the claim TWA 800 was brought down intentionally. But that wasn't evidence. That was the worst kind of unsubstantiated innuendo.

All that blurb told me is that there was something the investigators discarded as unusable, unworthy of further consideration. Conspiracy nut-jobs immediately latch onto the fact something, anything was discarded and decide that must be the real story. They take that as some kind "evidence" of a conspiracy, of a coverup... It's not evidence, it is worthless noise in the pursuit of real information on the event.

So someone shot a video and saw something funny in it. After the crash what, they turn it over to the investigators. They look at it, conclude that what they see is consistent with a MANPAD, they obviously cannot state it is a video of a MANPAD launch. Apparently, there is nothing else to support/link the event captured on that video with the crash 5 days later. So the video is dropped from the investigation and not mentioned again.

Suppressed? You better believe it was suppressed. Why? Because it is just the kind of thing that if/when it gets out, will cause exactly this kind of hand wringing, finger pointing, this-must-be-it jumping to conclusions. After the investigators are satisfied it is not related, they don't want to have to spend time/energy/resources fighting public opinion and media circus refuting every third wild theory involving the video.

If that discarded video from nearly a week before the crash is the kind of "evidence" there is to support the missile claim, then IMHO there is nothing there to see/learn.

[IncPen]

Something like this, impossible to keep secret.

JFK, RFK, MLK

[jpp113]

I remember that - the people were on the Today show with the photo - then later it was reported that the photo was confiscated by the FBI. The photo clearly showed something that looked like a missile heading toward the plane.

[Agent Smith]

I think that the reason for the suppression is clear. If it was admitted that a missile was responsible, the terrorists would have been given a hugh victory. I hate to say it, but Clinton probably made the correct call in suppressing the facts. Flame away.

[Perdogg]

The prevailing missile theory is that the US Navy shot it down. People who push a missile must embrace this possibility.

[KC Burke]

Being from Kansas City and knowing of Jack over the years is the one thing that has kept my mind open to the allegations of Federal manipulation. I have to ask myself, if Jack has been on this track hw can I ignore it?