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So which is it, geezer newbies or crotch rocketeers?
1 posted on 09/13/2007 12:29:28 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: martin_fierro

Please ping the Hooligans . . .


2 posted on 09/13/2007 12:30:57 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: BraveMan

No surprise to anyone who has seen those idiots on the highway.


3 posted on 09/13/2007 12:31:14 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: BraveMan

Yeah.... but my CBR 929RR is soooooooooo much fun.


4 posted on 09/13/2007 12:34:06 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: BraveMan

99% of the dudes that ride crotch-rockets believe the throttle is a toggle and their engines only run at 1,200 RPM or 12,000 RPM.


5 posted on 09/13/2007 12:34:11 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: BraveMan

Brings to mind a story I heard on the local news a few weeks ago. A guy bought his first bike, a spanking new Harley, rode it out of the dealer lot into traffic and was struck and killed by a truck.


6 posted on 09/13/2007 12:35:14 PM PDT by ladtx ( "I don't know how I got over the hill without getting to the top." - - Will Rogers)
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To: JoeSixPack1

It’s interesting to note riders of the Ultra Classic are well below the national average.


8 posted on 09/13/2007 12:36:15 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: BraveMan

It should cost an arm and a leg to insure a crotch rocket. If it doesn’t, it means more sedate riders are subsidizing the rocketeers.


9 posted on 09/13/2007 12:37:10 PM PDT by gridlock (I Represent Climate Change!)
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To: BraveMan

After seeing them on 95, I’m surprised any of them are still alive.


12 posted on 09/13/2007 12:38:11 PM PDT by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: BraveMan
Harley-Davidson doing the work that Darwin missed.
14 posted on 09/13/2007 12:40:09 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: BraveMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1paiHmm6fUM


18 posted on 09/13/2007 12:40:32 PM PDT by petercooper ("Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime." - Nicole Gelinas - 02-10-04)
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Newbies. Hands down. Experienced riders on sportbikes aren’t as dangerous as squids on any bike. On top of that, a sportbike’s handling vs. a cruiser makes it more forgiving.


21 posted on 09/13/2007 12:45:23 PM PDT by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com/2007/08/11/school-of-the-counterpropagandist/)
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To: BraveMan

Insurance Institute says geeser newbies on their “hawgs”.

At least they did five years or so ago.


23 posted on 09/13/2007 12:49:05 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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25 posted on 09/13/2007 12:52:12 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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“Supersports are built on racing platforms but modified for the highway and sold to consumers. They’re especially popular with riders younger than 30. With their light weight and powerful engines, supersports are all about speed. They typically have more horsepower per pound than other bikes. A 2006 model Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R, for example, produces 111 horsepower and weighs 404 pounds. In contrast, the 2006 model Harley-Davidson Ultra Classic Electra Glide, a touring motorcycle, produces 65 horsepower and weighs 788 pounds.”

Supersports are not “built on race platforms” - they are specifically built as street bikes and are often known as “race replicas”. The are sometimes raced in almost showroom stock classes but for higher race classes typically need significant modifications to improve various aspects. Also they are not “all about speed” - the popular 600 sportbike class, while certainly fast, is also very much about handling. The fastest bikes are ones like the Hayabusa and Kawasaki ZX-14, which do not handle as well and are typically not used in racing, other than drag racing or speed record attempts. Oh, and I have another name for a 788 lb bike with 65 HP - “boat anchor”.

Some of the classes of bikes that seem overrepresented in crash statistics, like touring bikes, have much higher exposure to risk due to the large number of miles they accumulate in the year, compared to the average cruiser which only racks up a few thousand miles in a year. Yes, I know there are guys who ride their cruisers much further every year, but many are used for nothing more than Sunday afternoon rides to the local pub and back. Bikes sitting in the garage at home tend to get into very few accidents - one of the reasons that I choose not to commute on mine, in very heavy traffic.


28 posted on 09/13/2007 12:58:10 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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Back when I lived in Los Angeles I spent 20 years on motorcycles splitting traffic on the freeways. I always told people who were concerned about me that “they couldn’t hit me if they tried!” Trouble was, one day some idiot wasn’t trying to hit me, and managed to do it anyway. I had “the big one” and through the grace of God I walked away from it. I was riding a GSXR1100 that day, though it wouldn’t likely have mattered what I was riding.

Helmet, heavy gloves, leather jacket, and high top shoes did their jobs and saved lots of skin, though my blue jeans failed miserably and my knees looked like I lost a fight with an angry cheese grater.

Long story short, I moved to the country and occasionally ride a little red 50cc scooter around my quiet neighborhood. The joy of riding was gone after “the big one.” ... BUT (and that’s a heavy BUT), if I had to live in Los Angeles and get around to my clients in West LA all over again, I’d still be on a bike and it would be a high performance sport bike.


31 posted on 09/13/2007 1:02:47 PM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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To: BraveMan

Blind ditzes yakking on cell phones. (”But officer, I didn’t see him!”)


32 posted on 09/13/2007 1:06:54 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: BraveMan

Basically, they are bullets on wheels. But, if that’s what people want, it’s OK with me. Just don’t hit my 1 ton, four door dually. You may not live.


36 posted on 09/13/2007 1:17:16 PM PDT by RC2
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To: BraveMan

already debunked here:
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=30210


37 posted on 09/13/2007 1:20:35 PM PDT by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists inside and outside our borders, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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To: BraveMan
It's got to be a toss up:

Between the twenty somethings on crotch rockets, wearing tennys, shorts, a full face helmet, and sporting the little lady on back dressed similarly but with a tattoo on her rump...while doing wheelies on the freeway;
the guy, even older than me, with the terrified expression on his face as he rides his brandy-new glide up and down my street;
and the real estate agents in nazi style skid lids and leather hauling housewives in leather to the local "ride in" sunday afternoon beer fest...
I'm currently just looking at my resto projects and wondering if I want to get back into the mix. (Although I did find a donor bike in better shape than the intended recipient)

One thing for sure, when I was commuting, splitting lanes and wearing the mandatory helmet/sound suppressor, I was just scared enough to be VERY alert, the kids I see today doing 85 down the divider line and slamming across lanes are cold meat in the making.

40 posted on 09/13/2007 1:26:16 PM PDT by norton
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To: BraveMan

Of course, the solution is to ban them...

Hey, we’ve got a Democratic Congress. Don’t be surprised.


42 posted on 09/13/2007 1:31:53 PM PDT by DesScorp
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