Posted on 08/02/2007 6:45:04 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
FReep This Poll!
Actual poll question:
Do you support the murder conviction of squad leader Sgt. Lawrence Hutchins in the Hamdania case?
Yes
No, too strong
No, too lenient
Go to the North County Times/The Californian link provided on this FR post.
Scroll down a bit and look for the poll on the right hand side.
Vote your choice.
(Excerpt) Read more at nctimes.com ...
I don’t dispute he was found guilty by a jury of his peers, he was.
I personally believe not all the evidence was allowed because they are not even sure of the identity of the victim. A jury should be shown all the evidence and the NCIS did not have all the evidence because they botched the investigation.
Actually, no, alot of people don’t want to throw that away. What shouldn’t be thrown away are the lives of these Marines and the brothers in arms that were saved by their actions.
You are dismissed to go stick your head back in the sand.
This Marine and all the Marines in this case were judged by a jury of Marine Iraq veterans. That should indicate how they feel about it. When something like this happens it hurts all Marines, Soldiers, Etc. and hampers the ability of the services to do their job.
No one takes it lightly. Not now, not in Viet Nam, not in Korea, not in WWII or any other conflict. This type of thing has been a problem since there have been conflicts. The Romans had trials and punishment over the same thing.
Honor and Integrity. When I was in the military, we were taught to defend them with our lives. I hope for the Sgt's sake there are mitigating circumstances and they come out in the appeal. But I have my doubts.....
The background is important - the alleged victim apparently had first-hand knowledge of terrorist attacks in Hamdania and may have been a prior participant. The rules of engagement (that are often too rigid) coupled with the unconventional war that the troops are fighting in Iraq/Afghanistan demand leniency.
Here are your mitigating circumstances:
http://home.surfree.com/~bgc883/id6.html
http://news.google.com/nwshp?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wn&q=ied%20explosion
My treatment of POWs was far from humane or legal. If I had been caught I would have spent some time.
Indeed.
Latest results:
Yes (16 Votes, 12%)
No, too strong (118 Votes, 86%)
No, too lenient (3 Votes, 2%)
In my opinion using the methods of the NCIS any Marine in any unit in Iraq could be convicted of almost anything. All they did to make this case was lock everyone up until someone said what they wanted said.
No, it is not. In your previous posts on this thread you have used these terms; "trial" and "jury".
If you are familiar with the UCMJ.
Well, I'm aware of this; the UCMJ does not make it a point to use civil or criminal law words. So I will afford you a degree of respect and not question your knowledge of anything.
Well said, Smooth. People who haven’t walked a mile in the shoes of a Marine or soldier would be doing themselves a favor to refrain from criticizing those who have put their lives on the line for our country. It’s easy for those looking in to have all the supposed answers.
Your words are eloquent and well said.
It is a mystery to me when I run across such comments as those of Ben Mugged.
As we both know, Free Republic is a fine place for sharing conservative viewpoints, and engaging in constructive debate.
Having said that, it is without question that words have meanings and even somtimes consequences.
We are a self-correcting political forum, and that is our strength.
done
Voted.
Yes (30 Votes, 13%)
No, too strong (194 Votes, 84%)
No, too lenient (6 Votes, 3%)
bump
In my 20 years in the service I put in quite a number of miles on my brogans. I also served on a Court Marshal as a juror during the Viet Nam era (insubordination).
When our military/government begin charging our military pilots for their questionable kills I would be able to more easily stomach seeing our ground forces having to face these B.S. charges. Winning wars requires ruthlessness, especially when fighting the type of enemy we are now facing.
If you say so.
BTW, what are brogans? I just always wore boots.
Given that I wasn’t in the jury and don’t know all the facts, I have no comment.
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