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Rise Of Man Theory 'Out By 400,000 Years'
Times Online ^ | 6-25-2007 | Dalya Alberge

Posted on 06/24/2007 6:39:42 PM PDT by blam

Rise of man theory ‘out by 400,000 years’

Dalya Alberge, Arts Correspondent
June 25, 2007

Our earliest ancestors gave up hunter-gathering and took to a settled life up to 400,000 years earlier than previously thought, according to controversial research.

The accepted timescale of Man’s evolution is being challenged by a German archaeologist who claims to have found evidence that Homo erectus — mankind’s early ancestor, who migrated from Africa to Asia and Europe — began living in settled communities long before the accepted time of 10,000 years ago.

The point at which settlement actually took place is the first critical stage in humanity’s cultural development.

Helmut Ziegert, of the Institute of Archaeology at Hamburg University, says that the evidence can be found at excavated sites in North and East Africa, in the remains of stone huts and tools created by upright man for fishing and butchery.

Professor Ziegert claims that the thousands of blades, scrapers, hand axes and other tools found at sites such as Budrinna, on the shore of the extinct Lake Fezzan in southwest Libya, and at Melka Konture, along the River Awash in Ethiopia, provide evidence of organised societies.

He believes that such sites show small communities of 40 or 50 people, with abundant water resources to exploit for constant harvests.

The implications for our knowledge of human evolution — and of our intellectual and social beginnings — are “profound” and a “staggering shift”, he said.

Professor Ziegert used potassium argon isotopic dating, stratigraphy and tool typology to compile his evidence. He will publish his findings this month in Minerva, the archaeology journal.

The news divided scholarly opinion yesterday.

Sean Kingsley, an archaeologist and the managing editor of Minerva, said: “This research is nothing less than a quantum leap in our understanding of Man’s intellectual and social history. For archaeology it’s as radical as finding life on Mars.

“As a veteran of over 81 archaeological surveys and excavations . . . Ziegert is nothing if not scientifically cautious, which makes the current revelation all the more exciting.”

But others were far from convinced. Paul Pettitt, senior lecturer in palaeolithic archaeology at the University of Sheffield, said: “Are they truly the remains of huts and not a natural phenomenon? Do they really date 400,000 years or are they much more recent? The site formation, age and implications are all questionable.”

He said that Homo erectus was a highly mobile hunter, that human remains can accumulate for a number of reasons and that the evidence to be published by Minerva does not indicate a year-round settlement.

Further scepticism was voiced by Paul Bahn, an archaeologist who specialises in the palaeolithic period. Although he believes that Homo erectus was quite advanced and capable of building durable structures, occasionally coming together in large groups, he remains to be convinced about settlements.

He said: “Homo erectus could have been there for a few days. He wouldn’t have carried the tools around. Inevitably, they accumulate. If hunter-gatherers found no cave or rock shelter, it makes sense that they might have built a shelter for a few days or seasonally. Just the fact that they’re made out of stone doesn’t mean they were permanent settlements.

Nick Barton, a lecturer in palaeolithic archaeology at the Institute of Archaeology at the University of Oxford, said: “No unequivocal dating evidence is presented except that based on the typology of the artefacts. It is entirely possible that the site represents a palimpsest of material spanning the palaeolithic to the neolithic.”

Homo erectus — a species that has been recognised since the late 19th century — lived from about 1.6 million to 200,000 years ago, ranging widely from Africa and Asia to parts of Europe. Most of the anatomical differences between Homo erectus and Homo sapiens relate to the skull and teeth, with the former having a jutting browridge, a wide nose and large teeth.

Professor Ziegert said: “The first archaeological revolution in fact was not triggered by anatomically ‘modern humans’ in the neolithic, or indeed in the technological and cultural revolution associated with the upper palaeolithic, but by Homo erectus, upright Man, an altogether different ancestral species making waves at the dawn of humanity.”

After decades of fieldwork, Professor Ziegert is convinced that future discoveries will uphold his conclusions. Under his direction, the University of Hamburg has scheduled a further programme of excavations at Budrinna and Melka Konture over the next four years.

1891

— The year in which evidence of Homo erectus was first discovered, in central Java, Indonesia


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I actually like this idea.
1 posted on 06/24/2007 6:39:46 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv; Coyoteman

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 06/24/2007 6:40:23 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border then, Introduce an Illegal Immigrant Deportation Bill)
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To: blam
Thanks for the ping.

It is an interesting idea, but I would really like to see the actual data before making up my mind on this one.

3 posted on 06/24/2007 6:44:57 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: blam
100,000 years from now...


4 posted on 06/24/2007 6:45:32 PM PDT by Perdogg (congratulations - you have just won an ipod nano)
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To: blam

I’m one of them close minded Bible thumpers who reject the ascension from monkeys, but that’s just me. And a much shorter time line.


5 posted on 06/24/2007 6:47:27 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
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To: blam

If man became a settled being so much earlier than was thought, it is disturbing that it took so long for him to invent the internet. I guess it just wasn’t possible until Al Gore was born.


6 posted on 06/24/2007 6:53:34 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: blam
Thanks Blam.
7 posted on 06/24/2007 6:54:29 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Pray for the deliberately ignorant.)
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To: blam

btt


8 posted on 06/24/2007 6:55:02 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Perdogg

You have to have big lobes to post that picture!


9 posted on 06/24/2007 6:58:53 PM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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To: blam

The biggest problem I have with the idea that man has existed in essentially his present form for hundreds of thousands of years is that, if so, we should have developed our civilized society long ago.

Look how far we advanced in the couple thousands years of modern recorded history, and the signs of great societies even before that time. The idea that mankind could exist with intelligence for a hundred thousand years without developing language, culture, and technology seems add odds with what we observe of man today.


10 posted on 06/24/2007 7:00:06 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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Why.. just means we evolved a hell of a lot slower then we thought...


11 posted on 06/24/2007 7:08:29 PM PDT by tophat9000 (My 2008 grassroots Republican platform: Build the fence, enforce the laws, and win the damm WAR!)
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I’m one of them close minded Bible thumpers who reject the ascension from monkeys, but that’s just me. And a much shorter time line.

Visit Carlsbad Caverns and then explain yourself.

12 posted on 06/24/2007 7:22:27 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: blam

YEC INTREP


13 posted on 06/24/2007 7:35:55 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: blam
This research is nothing less than a quantum leap in our understanding of Man’s intellectual and social history. For archaeology it’s as radical as finding life on Mars.

I don't think so.

14 posted on 06/24/2007 7:36:22 PM PDT by TruthWillWin
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Where are all the cities?

Where is the archaeological evidence!?


15 posted on 06/24/2007 7:41:10 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8...down to 3..GWB, we hardly knew ye...)
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Thanks Blam. 800,000 year old post holes indicate the same thing. :')

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16 posted on 06/24/2007 7:50:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 23, 2007.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
The idea that mankind could exist with intelligence for a hundred thousand years without developing language, culture, and technology seems add odds with what we observe of man today.
That assumes no bumps in the road -- besides intraspecies violence, there are impacts, eruptions, earthquakes, and intraspecies violence brought on by those.
17 posted on 06/24/2007 7:55:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("...from stupid cave men to smart old us with our hydrogen bombs and striped toothpaste." -- JAWest)
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To: blam

It’s also not unrealistic to imagine that there were a few places around that were near ideal for long term habitation, if not settlement. It can reasonably be assumed that much migration happens only when resources run out in an area.

So if a group found a sheltered valley, with lots of game animals and fresh water fish, easy to catch by hand in shallows, in a temperate area, they might occupy the place for several years until the bounty ran out.

The difference between that and a settlement would be the remains, or lack thereof, of them trying to create sustainability in the place. Some way of replenishing what they needed to remain.


18 posted on 06/24/2007 7:56:04 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: Perdogg

That’s got to be “Homo-Inflatus”


19 posted on 06/24/2007 8:00:17 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: elkfersupper
"Visit Carlsbad Caverns and then explain yourself." Proves nothing about evolution. In fact catastrophic event and rapid formation of geological features all over the world are theories every bit as valid, and in fact have more predictions in there favor than do slow thousands of years evolutionary explanations.

If you choose to ignore one in favor of another, then you are just cheating yourself. It's like going to court and having the jury listen to only the prosecutions side of the argument. Unfortunately this is the common practice of evolutionists, who will even go as far as to ignore supress research and fabricate findings, much like we see happening with global warming alarmists.(can't really call them scientists if they use their trade to fabricate a conclusion)

20 posted on 06/24/2007 8:03:27 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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