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Majority of Republicans Doubt Theory of Evolution
Gallup News Service ^ | 11 June 2007 | Frank Newport

Posted on 06/11/2007 2:09:09 PM PDT by Alter Kaker

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To: JSDude1
I agree, and there is massive evidence for a world wide flood.

Sorry, that happens not to be the case. Most experts place the flood at about 4350 years ago, and that is a time period that is well known to archaeologists (note: archaeologists, not geologists).

If there was such massive evidence it would be easy to find. It has not been found. Instead, there is massive evidence that no such global flood occurred at about 4350 years ago.

61 posted on 06/11/2007 2:40:40 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman
Care to waste your time playing the flute again?
62 posted on 06/11/2007 2:40:41 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Pray for the deliberately ignorant.)
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To: Alter Kaker
You're not only wrong, you really couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

Show us a few hundred examples, just to prove the truth of your statement, then no one here will doubt your veracity, else sell that cr@p somewhere else.

63 posted on 06/11/2007 2:40:53 PM PDT by itsahoot (The GOP did nothing about immigration, immigration did something about the GOP (As Predicted))
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To: Alter Kaker
Yes it is. And while creationists have managed to dig up a tiny handful of scientists who say they don't believe in evolution, virtually all of them refuse to believe in evolution because they are evangelical Christians or Islamic fundamentalists, and their religion requires them to reject evolution regardless of the evidence. What you don't find are scientists who dispute evolution on what are primarily scientific (as opposed to theological) grounds.

I can actually find you more scientists who are Christians and don't see a conflict between Christianity and the Bible. At that, it seems the more scientific knowledge one has, the more 'spiritual' (for lack of a better term) they become... A lot of this battle is fought or vocalized, in the middle area of people who have only rote (High School/Sunday School) level knowledge of the Bible and Science.

64 posted on 06/11/2007 2:41:41 PM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: Alter Kaker

Good luck proving any of that. Lots of hypothesis in there.

There are many gaps and many assumptions that have to be made to make the link.

In any case, suppose that it is all true, it only argues for a God that must have known what He is doing.


65 posted on 06/11/2007 2:41:43 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: svcw
Yulp, jest taint getting it.

There are only two possibilities: you're either not familiar with the evidence, which is overwhelming and conclusive, or you willfully choose to ignore that evidence. The former explanation is more charitable than the latter, which implies dishonesty on your part. I don't like to think that people are dishonest, so I choose the former.

66 posted on 06/11/2007 2:42:05 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: svcw; Alter Kaker
What a condescending little twerp.

You can say that again.

Oh, I just did.

67 posted on 06/11/2007 2:42:15 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Romney : "not really trying to define what is technically amnesty. I'll let the lawyers decide.")
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To: Alter Kaker
Correction on 64--
I can actually find you more scientists who are Christians and don't see a conflict between Christianity Evolution and the Bible...
68 posted on 06/11/2007 2:42:36 PM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: nmh

Ape
My dad used to say we had family that swung by their necks but never by their tails.


69 posted on 06/11/2007 2:42:41 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Ben Mugged
Sounds like the author wants to equate the belief in evolution with the right to govern.

That's my take on it too.
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70 posted on 06/11/2007 2:44:14 PM PDT by radioman
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To: Alter Kaker

People don’t reject evolution because they are intellectually incapable of understanding it. To phrase this as a conflict between intelligence and stupidity is way off the mark. It is fundamentally a conflict between two basic beliefs: (1) mind and intelligence can evolve from non-mind and non-intelligence; and (2) mind and intelligence must spring from a greater mind and greater intelligence. Position #2, the anti-evolutionist position, insists that the cause cannot be inferior to the effect.


71 posted on 06/11/2007 2:45:48 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Alter Kaker

All articles written about evolution always come from the perspective of ...”how stupid, all these people still don’t believe in evolution...what is wrong with them”. But the truth is there is no evidence that proves the “theory” of evolution. The person who put forth the theory of evolution thought Blacks were an inferior offshoot or animalistic race.

I personally believe in “adaptation”, not evolution. I don’t think we evolved from a single cell. I think we were a planned creation that has adapted to our surroundings. And for all of the holier-than-thou evolutionists to say they are right, when they openly admit they cannot prove this, is all about egotism. Them being smarter than anyone else. Just because the Libs and the schools have “taught” evolution for decades doesn’t mean it’s true.

The “fact” that blacks were inferior, not human, was taught for hundreds of years. Didn’t mean it was true. So, evolutionists, I think it’s adaptation, prove me wrong. You can’t.


72 posted on 06/11/2007 2:46:54 PM PDT by dannyboy72 (How long will you hold onto the rope when Liberals pull us off the cliff?)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Hey I thought the earth was flat otherwise maps would be round.


73 posted on 06/11/2007 2:47:42 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Because you refuse to listen. Scientific voices are silenced because there are some emotionally invested in the idea of evolution, even though the rational mind rejects it on its face as laughable and absurd.


74 posted on 06/11/2007 2:48:13 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Conspiracy theorists are among the most egotistical people, but have the fewest reasons to be such.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Now you are conflating a scientific knowledge of the “evolutionary process” of mutations and genetic manipulations with the historical recreations of the origins of species using an evolutionary, non-creative framework.

They are two separate things. If a person doesn’t think mutations exist, they are denying what can be seen with their own eyes, and tested and proven.

But (not advancing a theory) if God simply created the universe 10,000 years ago with exactly the properties it would possess had it evolved over 4 billion years, all your “science” would be unable to tell the difference.

And if there WAS a creation, that creation had to make everything SOMEHOW, so to argue that it’s absurd that a Creator WOULD make things in one manner or another is simply to argue against something you probably don’t believe anyway.

After all, some things would almost have to be created with appearance of age — gravity seems to operate in the time domain, so to create a solar system, the Creator would best apply gravity as if the things brought into being had done so minutes earlier (such that the gravity was already effecting the outcome), and if you are going to create lights in the sky, it makes sense to create the light waves reaching the earth.

In fact, it would be really funny if God just created the light wave/particles/effects, and skipped the whole actual BODIES, for things that were “too far away”.

This is not what I believe, or don’t believe, it’s just to point out that once I accept that there is a God powerful enough to create the universe, your entire theory of Evolution is useless for explaining origins, as my God’s creation could be precisely aimed at misleading those who refuse to believe in Him.


75 posted on 06/11/2007 2:48:29 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: tflabo
Depends on what makes ‘man’ human.. is this referring to the physical flesh body or is this a pesher describing the spirit?

After all, what makes ‘man’, man? Is it our flesh or is it the Spirit God put in us?

The interesting thing about Genesis 1:26, is, in Genesis 2:4, it says God created man ‘before any shrub appeared or any plant sprung up’. This seems to indicate that ‘man’ in some way, preceded the Genesis 1 creation (at least the vegetation steps.) Could this be reflecting on our true selves, our Spirit? All through the Bible, it says that we are not our body, we are our Spirit.

76 posted on 06/11/2007 2:48:59 PM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: Steve_Seattle
My take on this is that many people just have a gut feeling that intelligence and order cannot spring from non-intelligence and disorder.

They probably noticed their closets are never organized when they open the doors, even when they are certain they arranged them neatly earlier. :-)

77 posted on 06/11/2007 2:51:38 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Steve_Seattle

Guessing that it’s just easier to dismiss Creationists as a bunch of ignorant morons.


78 posted on 06/11/2007 2:52:10 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Humanity will turn back to it’s proper place in God’s creation...

And that would be? (A genuine question, not a dare)

79 posted on 06/11/2007 2:52:19 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: tflabo; Rodney King

The article also ignores the Christian belief that humans, unlike animals, are not just a body, but instead are made up of both a body and a soul. I think this is pretty critical to understanding the perspective of a lot of the people attempting to respond to the poll.

Also, I think the questions would have been more interesting without the 10,000 year figure, as it is very possible to reject human evolution without believing that the approximately 10,000 year age of mankind is literal or even having an opinion on that issue.


80 posted on 06/11/2007 2:52:44 PM PDT by Stingray51
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