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Majority of Republicans Doubt Theory of Evolution
Gallup News Service ^ | 11 June 2007 | Frank Newport

Posted on 06/11/2007 2:09:09 PM PDT by Alter Kaker

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To: Alter Kaker
I hope party leaders have the foresight to realize that opposing modernity is a losing strategy.

Yeah, those of us given the faith to believe the Bible is true are just a bunch of ignorant hillbillies. I'm so glad we can count on smarter, wiser people to lead us into the future.</sarcasm>

41 posted on 06/11/2007 2:32:08 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: JSDude1
the scientific community is not uniform in their belief of macro-(neo darwinist) evolution

Yes it is. And while creationists have managed to dig up a tiny handful of scientists who say they don't believe in evolution, virtually all of them refuse to believe in evolution because they are evangelical Christians or Islamic fundamentalists, and their religion requires them to reject evolution regardless of the evidence. What you don't find are scientists who dispute evolution on what are primarily scientific (as opposed to theological) grounds.

42 posted on 06/11/2007 2:33:25 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

Evolution is hardly the definition of “modernizing”.

Humanity will turn back to it’s proper place in God’s creation, or will continue it’s slide into anarchy and Chaos.

There is no policy of government that SHOULD in any way be effected by one’s personal belief in the origin of man. However, to the degree that one might suggest that what a person believes should be judged in order to take a measure of the person, my response would be to reject those who reject God and his plan and purpose.

Fortunately for the athiests, agnostics, and other incorrect-believers, that is not what I, or a majority of people, use to judge our fellow man when it comes to choosing a representative, or making a purchase, or hiring for service.

So my warning is, don’t push it. We are a great nation because the believing community has determined that allowing plurality of beliefs is better for our own belief system. The more uninformed bigots push to minimize or restrict the correct view of the world by dismissing it as non-modern, or backwards, the more those with the true belief will have to assert their rights and place in our society.


43 posted on 06/11/2007 2:33:56 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Always Right; Steve_Seattle
Similar to the gut feeling Einstein had on the issue.

Einstein & Faith
44 posted on 06/11/2007 2:34:15 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; The majority are satisfied with a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: nmh

I like the Civil War anecdote about two Confederate soldiers talking about the new-fangled theory of evolution:

“Maybe you came from an ape. Maybe I came from an ape. But General Lee didn’t come from no ape.”


45 posted on 06/11/2007 2:34:30 PM PDT by 04-Bravo
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To: Alter Kaker
The party will either go into the 21st century and win elections, or it will refuse to modernize and continue to lose.

Utter balderdash

The party is losing because it has abandoned the core conservative principles and is currently corrupt. The party will win again when it figuires out how to be conservative again

So, I'm not a modern man because I don't believe in evolution?

Given the choice between believing a theory that I evolved from a lower life form over millions of years or I was created in the likeness of a loving all powerful creator.

It's a simple choice.

46 posted on 06/11/2007 2:34:51 PM PDT by Popman (I removed my Bushbot brain chip after he didn't veto the McCain Feingold election anti freedom bill)
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To: Alter Kaker
The data indicate some seeming confusion on the part of Americans on this issue. About a quarter of Americans say they believe both in evolution's explanation that humans evolved over millions of years and in the creationist explanation that humans were created as is about 10,000 years ago.

I don't care what you believe...that is hilarious.
47 posted on 06/11/2007 2:35:02 PM PDT by newguy357
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To: Alter Kaker

Gallup would really be shocked to hear how many people doubt the theory of man made global warming...


48 posted on 06/11/2007 2:35:09 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: Alter Kaker

You’re absolutely correct about one thing. Those without the analytical ability to reject flat earth-like theories (such as macroevolution) should be nowhere near public office.


49 posted on 06/11/2007 2:35:20 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Conspiracy theorists are among the most egotistical people, but have the fewest reasons to be such.)
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To: nmh
I totally reject evolution.

That's your right.

It’s absurd on its face and there is NO evidence to support it - just wild hypothesis...

False. The fact that you ignore the evidence will not make it disappear. Evolution is a well-supported scientific theory whether you say yea or nay.

...since they were NOT there.

That is not a requirement for verification in science. Implying that it is only makes you sound ignorant of how science works.

50 posted on 06/11/2007 2:36:01 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Alter Kaker

As a Christian (preacher’s son) and a conservative I have no problem with Evolution per say, I would only ad the caveat that I believe in directed evolution.

Anyone attempting to read Genesis as a literal word for word exact transpiring of events must some how reconcile Revelations as also being literal when clearly it uses alliteration to explain future events.

I can not understand why some Christians seem to understand parables and mans trouble interpreting witnessed events of God’s awesome power and yet somehow believe that Genesis HAS to be taken as the literal truth and not mans understanding of what God told him, told in a way that a man at that time period could and would understand.

Do we as Christians interpret theses passages as the literal truth or only one mans ability to attempt to describe what God had revealed to him:

II Kings 2:11 “And it came to pass, as they still went on talked, that, behold, there appeared a CHARIOT OF FIRE, and HORSES OF FIRE, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

Ezekiel 1:19 “And when the living creatures went, the
wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.”.


51 posted on 06/11/2007 2:36:13 PM PDT by tricky_k_1972 (Putting on Tinfoil hat and heading for the bomb shelter.)
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To: Alter Kaker
I hope party leaders have the foresight to realize that opposing modernity is a losing strategy.

You mean like the strategy we used in the last election? You are the problem not the solution.

52 posted on 06/11/2007 2:36:25 PM PDT by itsahoot (The GOP did nothing about immigration, immigration did something about the GOP (As Predicted))
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To: Alter Kaker
The ignorance of these secular pollsters is, as they put it, fascinating. It's pretty obvious from the writeup that the author(s) looks upon Christians as animals that have yet to evolve to his level. Too bad it's not worth his time to actually learn anything about our primitive beliefs before running off and asking questions.

It is a basic tenet of Christianity that God created the world and Man.

If you present a Christian with a choice between limiting God to a role as "guiding hand" versus a choice specifically mentioning "creation", you are going to drive a lot of people to answer "creation", even if they would, in general, disagree with the 10,000 year silliness.

53 posted on 06/11/2007 2:36:49 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Romney : "not really trying to define what is technically amnesty. I'll let the lawyers decide.")
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To: curiosity

It works for evolutionists. Until it’s so clear they got it wrong, and then they just re-write things to make it all better.

Meanwhile, God who is in heaven has his hand on the experiments, the discoveries, the “evidence”, and apparently has some sense of humor.


54 posted on 06/11/2007 2:36:59 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Alter Kaker

If you don’t understand how evolution occurred, you’re not very well educated.

Yulp, jest taint getting it.


55 posted on 06/11/2007 2:38:49 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

You could be right, but what makes you say that? Did we do a freeper poll or something, and I missed it?

I was somewhat under the impression that a lot of the rabid intolerant evolutionists left us for “another site”, maybe darwin central.

By rabid intolerant evolutionists, I mean people who would assert that anybody who doesn’t believe the way they do are backwards and should be shunned and eliminated from political consideration.


56 posted on 06/11/2007 2:39:01 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: docbnj
Let’s get this stratight. A fact is a verifiable observation.

And so you're saying evolution has been verified by observable process that one species has totally evolved into another...

Which new species have been witnessed being formed by this evolutionary process?

How long does one species take to totally form into another?

57 posted on 06/11/2007 2:39:25 PM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: Alter Kaker

Please don’t equate evolution with real science. You’re doing a disservice to all the brilliant minds who dedicated their lives to the advancement of humankind.


58 posted on 06/11/2007 2:40:24 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Conspiracy theorists are among the most egotistical people, but have the fewest reasons to be such.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Dear Dawg:

GOP voters have higher education levels than avg. I take it you are probably a Loonytarian, since only a Loonytarian would have such a condescending attitude of smug superiority. I went to a Loonytarian meeting one time and never ran into a more squirrely bunch in all my life. By the way, Loonytarians advocate things a self-respecting ape would flee from very quickly. More evidence that evolution could not be true.
59 posted on 06/11/2007 2:40:26 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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To: mnehrling
"Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, let them have dominion over the over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth. So God created man in His own image, in the image of GodHe created him, male and female". Genesis 1: 26,27

God did not start with an ameoba or reptile in making man. So for us believers of God how can we believe the tenets of evolution concerning the origins of mankind.

60 posted on 06/11/2007 2:40:33 PM PDT by tflabo (<p>)
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