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To: JSDude1
the scientific community is not uniform in their belief of macro-(neo darwinist) evolution

Yes it is. And while creationists have managed to dig up a tiny handful of scientists who say they don't believe in evolution, virtually all of them refuse to believe in evolution because they are evangelical Christians or Islamic fundamentalists, and their religion requires them to reject evolution regardless of the evidence. What you don't find are scientists who dispute evolution on what are primarily scientific (as opposed to theological) grounds.

42 posted on 06/11/2007 2:33:25 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker
Yes it is. And while creationists have managed to dig up a tiny handful of scientists who say they don't believe in evolution, virtually all of them refuse to believe in evolution because they are evangelical Christians or Islamic fundamentalists, and their religion requires them to reject evolution regardless of the evidence. What you don't find are scientists who dispute evolution on what are primarily scientific (as opposed to theological) grounds.

I can actually find you more scientists who are Christians and don't see a conflict between Christianity and the Bible. At that, it seems the more scientific knowledge one has, the more 'spiritual' (for lack of a better term) they become... A lot of this battle is fought or vocalized, in the middle area of people who have only rote (High School/Sunday School) level knowledge of the Bible and Science.

64 posted on 06/11/2007 2:41:41 PM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: Alter Kaker

People don’t reject evolution because they are intellectually incapable of understanding it. To phrase this as a conflict between intelligence and stupidity is way off the mark. It is fundamentally a conflict between two basic beliefs: (1) mind and intelligence can evolve from non-mind and non-intelligence; and (2) mind and intelligence must spring from a greater mind and greater intelligence. Position #2, the anti-evolutionist position, insists that the cause cannot be inferior to the effect.


71 posted on 06/11/2007 2:45:48 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Alter Kaker

Because you refuse to listen. Scientific voices are silenced because there are some emotionally invested in the idea of evolution, even though the rational mind rejects it on its face as laughable and absurd.


74 posted on 06/11/2007 2:48:13 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Conspiracy theorists are among the most egotistical people, but have the fewest reasons to be such.)
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To: Alter Kaker
because they are evangelical Christians or Islamic fundamentalists, Wow, you and Rosie Odonnell must be joined at the hip. Comparing Christians to Muslims.
90 posted on 06/11/2007 2:58:19 PM PDT by itsahoot (The GOP did nothing about immigration, immigration did something about the GOP (As Predicted))
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To: Alter Kaker

No true there are many “credible” scientists whom dispute the theory of macroevolution: biologists and chemists on the issues of DNA and cellular formation (that it is 1 too complex, to shows intelligence), and other scientists even geologists whom recognize that there has been proof of species in fossils appears in rock that they shouldn’t according to the geologic clock. Don’tput out false information that these creation scientists don’t rely upon empirical evidence (its the same ad-hominim attack) that many darwinists rely upon rather than substantive Argument..!


135 posted on 06/11/2007 3:19:24 PM PDT by JSDude1
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