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Peggy Noonan and The WSJ Editorial - It's Time to Revolt!
Red State ^ | June 1, 2007

Posted on 06/01/2007 5:41:16 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

However, now I do not feel alone. Peggy Noonan has a new column up in the Wall Street Journal Opinion Journal. She has clearly said what has been getting me down. I think I knew what was up, but couldn't put a finger on it. I knew it centered around the immigration debate, and the way our congressional leaders are behaving. That sentiment especially includes Mr. Bush too, but when I read this column, I felt like Charlie Brown yelling at Lucy at her Psychology booth when he yells, "That's it!" when trying to identify why he can't get into the Christmas spirit.

Try this clip on for size :

The White House doesn't need its traditional supporters anymore, because its problems are way beyond being solved by the base. And the people in the administration don't even much like the base. Desperate straits have left them liberated, and they are acting out their disdain. Leading Democrats often think their base is slightly mad but at least their heart is in the right place. This White House thinks its base is stupid and that its heart is in the wrong place.

For almost three years, arguably longer, conservative Bush supporters have felt like sufferers of battered wife syndrome. You don't like endless gushing spending, the kind that assumes a high and unstoppable affluence will always exist, and the tax receipts will always flow in? Too bad! You don't like expanding governmental authority and power? Too bad. You think the war was wrong or is wrong? Too bad.

But on immigration it has changed from "Too bad" to "You're bad."

The president has taken to suggesting that opponents of his immigration bill are unpatriotic--they "don't want to do what's right for America." His ally Sen. Lindsey Graham has said,

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; bbs; bds; crimaliens; deathofthegop; holierthanthou; illegalimmigrants; immigrantlist; invasion; noamnestyforillegals; noonan; peggyisrighton; zerovisa
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To: familyop

Duncan Hunter is the only honest conservative in this race.


21 posted on 06/01/2007 6:08:53 PM PDT by RichardMoore (gohunter08.com)
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To: jrooney

It’s one thing to do something boneheaded once. See: 1986 amnesty.

It’s another thing to do the same thing AGAIN with that experience as your teacher.

And it’s a totally other thing to then imply that your base is stupid and/or bigoted.

If anyone broke the 11th Commandment it was this administration.


22 posted on 06/01/2007 6:12:41 PM PDT by rom (17" MacBook Pro. 30" Cinema Display. 1 Happy Programmer.)
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To: RichardMoore

Duncan Hunter is the only honest conservative in this race.


Nonsense.

There are other honest conservatives.

Can’t you support your guy without lying and smearing the others? Hunter deserves better.


23 posted on 06/01/2007 6:13:06 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney (...and another "Constitution-bot"))
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To: atomicpossum
“Mr. President, the base is revolting!”

When it comes to the illegal aliens issue, that statement works both ways: "Base, the president is revolting."

24 posted on 06/01/2007 6:15:57 PM PDT by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Bush is completely incompetent. I just wish that he and Cheney would walk away now while there is still a Republican Party left.

I can’t believe how Bush always says he has a “strategic plan.” He never had of a strategic plan, I don’t think he even knows what a strategic plan is, he probably heard the phrase in one of his classes at college.


25 posted on 06/01/2007 6:17:00 PM PDT by GinaLolaB
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To: Clintonfatigued

That’s fine, but meanwhile we’ve got to do something about the fact that our country is being virtually stolen, transformed to a bilingual mess dominated by a polyglot culture that is anything but the American culture that has been developing over the past two centuries.
The invaders, now including Muslim enclaves scattered about our country in addition to untold millions of Mexicans and other ‘Latinos,’ are anything but amenable to being assimilated into the now marginally dominant American culture, and have zero or less interest in becoming U. S. citizens. They didn’t come here because they wished to be U. S. citzens, and if our elected officials are willing to sell U. S. citizenship cheaply why should foreign nationals value it highly?


26 posted on 06/01/2007 6:17:26 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: jrooney
Regardless of motivation, Noonan's right on this one. She put the money quote right there in the lede:

What political conservatives and on-the-ground Republicans must understand at this point is that they are not breaking with the White House on immigration. ... What conservatives and Republicans must recognize is that the White House has broken with them. What President Bush is doing, and has been doing for some time, is sundering a great political coalition. This is sad, and it holds implications not only for one political party but for the American future.

So, the question now is not the one the false pragmatists keep asking (Hey, Pelosi's worse, you don't want that, do you?). The question for conservatives and their right-libertarian allies is "What are we going to do about it?" I say it's time for a revolution in the Republican party, not time for "pragmatism" or looking back on the history of the past two decades to find times that the true heros of the conservative movment stumbled.

But that's just me.

27 posted on 06/01/2007 6:17:43 PM PDT by absalom01 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: GinaLolaB
Bush is completely incompetent. I just wish that he and Cheney would walk away now while there is still a Republican Party left.

I mean Cheney should quit and let Bush appoint a good successor, then Bush should quit and let the newly appointed VP take over before it is too late.

28 posted on 06/01/2007 6:20:00 PM PDT by GinaLolaB
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To: Clintonfatigued
CALL! CALL! CALL! CALL! AND KEEP CALLING TILL THE LINES FRY!

WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!

Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti illegal immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them. This is a bipartisan issue not a Conservative or Liberal issue BUT AN AMERICAN issue.

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

The best way to stop Shamnesty

29 posted on 06/01/2007 6:20:19 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Clintonfatigued

bump


30 posted on 06/01/2007 6:20:43 PM PDT by VOA
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To: jrooney

I think one of the main groups responsible for this entirely lousy bill is the “conservative” bloc that wanted it their way and made 100% non-negotiable demands for unrealizable objectives. Bush’s first suggestions a year ago needed tweaking, but they weren’t that bad; “conservatives” could have done something then to have some input. But impelled by a combination of Dem sleeper trolls and raving nativist loonies, they instead refused to talk and essentially ended up putting themselves outside the game.

And this bill, passed under Dems that the “conservative base” helped elect, is the result. The bill is rotten, but it’s almost a certainty that it will be passed. Thanks, guys.


31 posted on 06/01/2007 6:21:25 PM PDT by livius
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To: Clintonfatigued
..I had grown tired of Peggy and some of her misstatements in recent years—but with this column, with all her powers of a word smith, she nails it.

Just like Laura Ingraham nailed it in her interview of Linda Chavez this morning...

32 posted on 06/01/2007 6:21:52 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: PeterFinn
I supported that jerk at the protests in 2000

To think of all those Sore-Loserman signs I printed out and painstakingly taped together. Well, at least next time I can get a Z-visa holder to do the drugergy for me.

33 posted on 06/01/2007 6:23:27 PM PDT by kevao
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To: PeterFinn
only to have him turn around and call ME unpatriotic because I don’t support illegal immigration?

I haven't heard or read his speech (yet) but if he said that, well, that's pretty much the end of any support from me.

And the RNC can take that to the bank.

34 posted on 06/01/2007 6:23:52 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: livius

Sad but true IMO.


35 posted on 06/01/2007 6:23:52 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: jrooney
What type of bill do you think will get by Pelosi and Reid now? One that is not near as good that Newt or Frist could have passed.

You mean like this one that got passed during Gingrich's speakership -- which is why we are doing Comprehensive Immigration again?

1996 Immigration Reform Law

Source:  wikispaces.com: immigration bills history

36 posted on 06/01/2007 6:26:38 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Clintonfatigued

It is hard to have to say, “No, Mr. President, it’s YOU who doesn’t want to do what’s right for America.”
But I’m getting there.


37 posted on 06/01/2007 6:26:42 PM PDT by Graymatter (FREDeralist)
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To: PeterFinn

Ditto here.


38 posted on 06/01/2007 6:28:37 PM PDT by rljv
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To: Beelzebubba
Oh I'm sorry I forgot about Huckabee and some of the others that never get mentioned. I was thinking of Fred, Rudy and Mitt. Of course you are right. I stand corrected. But Hunter is the one who has been fighting for the fence(he wrote the bill which President Bush signed into law) and he forced the Government to build the fence in San Diego after they dragged thier feet.

Fred has been busy on TV, Rudy is a democrat in republican clothing and Mitt is someone who will apparently say anything to get elected. Hence his flip flop on abortion to get into Mass. State House.

Fred's the man everybody wants and I'm just slightly suspicious of him because he won't talk about things like the NAU and "free-trade" with China.

39 posted on 06/01/2007 6:29:20 PM PDT by RichardMoore (gohunter08.com)
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To: jrooney
Can GW sign a bill on his own?

No, but he can veto it on his own. Too bad he won't, though.

40 posted on 06/01/2007 6:30:00 PM PDT by kevao
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