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Climate Change, Not Humans, Trounced Neanderthals
Yahoo! News ^ | May 4, 2007 | Dave Mosher

Posted on 05/06/2007 6:22:23 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot

Neanderthals disappeared from Earth more than 20,000 years ago, but figuring out why continues to challenge anthropologists. One team of scientists, however, now says they have evidence to back climate change as the main culprit.

The Iberian Peninsula, better known as present-day Spain and Portugal, was one of the last Neanderthal refuges. Many scientists have thought that out-hunting by Homo sapiens and interbreeding with them brought Neanderthals to their demise, but climate change has also been proposed.

Francisco Jiménez-Espejo, a paleoclimatologist at the University of Granada in Spain, says a lack of evidence has left climate change weakly supported—until now. “We put data behind the theory,” he said, filling in a large gap in European climate records when Neanderthals faded out of existence.

The scientists’ study is detailed in a recent issue of Quaternary Science Reviews.

Cold spell

To figure out the temperature, water supply, and windiness of Iberia from 20,000 to 40,000 years ago, the scientists looked at sediments on the ocean floor off Spain and Portugal. Because wind or water erode rocky minerals differently, the pebbles and fragments wash into the sea in different ratios, creating a steady track record of land conditions at the bottom of the ocean.

The scientists also focused on barite, a compound gathered by marine animals. The more barite in sediment, the more lively the oceans were at the time. “When we found big drops in marine productivity, we knew there were big changes in climatic condition in Iberia,” Jiménez-Espejo says.

The study reveals three rough climatic periods for Neanderthals, with the last and harshest period starting about 26,000 years ago. “The last event was very, very cold and dry,” Jiménez-Espejo says, “and other than 250,000 years ago, such a harsh climate was never reached before.”

Other reasons

But is climate change the only reason Neanderthals died out?

“We’re not saying that,” Jiménez-Espejo said. “What we are saying: Neanderthals struggled with climate change more than modern humans, and during the period of their extinction, very unfavorable climatic conditions were present.”

To reach North America, humans eventually migrated across Siberia and learned to survive in the icy regions.

But “Neanderthals couldn’t make the trip,” Jiménez-Espejo said. This fact, the team believes, highlights the weakness of Neanderthals to cold, open environments—as Iberia would have been at the time of their extinction.

Other scientists think less game for Neanderthals to hunt—and not having modern humans’ skills to hunt them—probably sealed our humanoid cousin’s demise. Yet others believe Neanderthals never went extinct and instead interbred their genes into our own, as recent skeletal evidence might suggest.


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To: Toddsterpatriot
Notice how the media and the left (I'm being redundant) use slick word choice to obfuscate the facts. It was GLOBAL COOLING that doomed the Neanderthals, not climate change. With the left, swamps become "wetlands", normal weather becomes "climate change", political decisions become "scandals", and disinterested center are swayed. This has become a war of words, not information.
21 posted on 05/06/2007 6:59:41 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I thought it was Geico...


22 posted on 05/06/2007 7:03:52 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
I don't believe any of it... I believe that they died out because they COULDN'T sign up for GEICO insurance, contrary to the commercials, which are all PC BS!!!!

It was "too hard" for a caveman to do it!

Mark

23 posted on 05/06/2007 7:04:06 AM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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To: Gorzaloon
As to Al Gore, to paraphrase Winston Churchill:

Never have so few (one) done so much (damage) with so little (brains).

24 posted on 05/06/2007 7:08:50 AM PDT by econjack
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To: econjack
Never have so few (one) done so much (damage) with so little (brains).

After many false starts, he finally found the Golden Scam.

What a sad commentary on the state of Science and Education. A generation ago, he would have been laughed and ridiculed to suicide.

25 posted on 05/06/2007 7:11:35 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: centurion316
And Climate Change will trounce the Democrat Party, and Socialism worldwide when people eventually find out how they are being deceived.

I keep waiting, but the deception keeps coming and people keep buying it. Amazing, isn't it?

26 posted on 05/06/2007 7:31:41 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

They probably used too much toilet paper.


27 posted on 05/06/2007 8:13:13 AM PDT by CassieGOP
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To: Toddsterpatriot
We tend to try and find “The” cause for something due to our scientific methods of controlled experiments, and our human desire for simple answers.

I personally think it is folly to look for “The” cause for Neanderthal extinction. Very rarely is there “a” cause for something. It is usually a combination of influences.

28 posted on 05/06/2007 9:10:26 AM PDT by Lost Dutchman (I thought WWI started because some bloke named Archie Duke shot an ostrich because he was hungry.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

“But “Neanderthals couldn’t make the trip,” Jiménez-Espejo said. This fact, the team believes, highlights the weakness of Neanderthals to cold, open environments—as Iberia would have been at the time of their extinction.’

And I can’t make the trip over this weak stretch of speculation. I’ll wait for the next ‘breakthrough.’


29 posted on 05/06/2007 9:26:31 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: Lost Dutchman
I personally think it is folly to look for “The” cause for Neanderthal extinction.

I heard it was Chinese dog food.

30 posted on 05/06/2007 9:30:45 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: gcruse
“But “Neanderthals couldn’t make the trip,”

They should have used their frequent flier miles.

31 posted on 05/06/2007 9:31:49 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
“What we are saying: Neanderthals struggled with climate change more than modern humans, and during the period of their extinction, very unfavorable climatic conditions were present.”

In other words, they didn't have the ability to adapt to the changes, so they died out.

32 posted on 05/06/2007 9:55:11 AM PDT by SuziQ
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Note: this topic is from 5/06/2007. Thanks Toddsterpatriot.

33 posted on 02/01/2015 3:11:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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