JIM ROBINSON AS THE NEW JOSEPH FARAH - STABBING THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT IN THE BACK [Re:Giuliani]

On one the few rational minds left around here - but for long | 4/24/2007 | Al Simmons

[Al Simmons]

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In self-imposed exile - since April 2007

The tone of the debate and the attacks on long-time fellow Freepers for the cardinal sin of daring to support Rudy Giuliani in early 2007 around here have really saddened me. Instead of fighting the enemy FR is now imposing an 'ideological purity' test on FR members. The well-oiled train has gone off the rails and Mr. Robinson risks becoming the next Joe Farah - a fellow who started a great website for conservative news and opinions, but who gradually drifted off to la-la land, losing all credibility - and readership - in the process.

He has set himself squarely in the Internet media spotlight, doused himself with gasoline, and and lighted himself on fire - a fact that has not escaped the attention of the left-wing lunatics at Daily Kos. Their reporting on what has been going on at FR is perhaps the first factually true account published on their site.

Jim, if that quote of yours about setting up an organization to 'Swiftboat Rudy' is accurate as quoted in their article, the only thing I have to say to you is that you ought to be ashamed of yourself, as you have now become the back-stabber of the conservative cause.

If you wish to marginalize this site by turning it into a narrow "several-issue" forum, that is your right. Just as it is my right to choose to not participate here any longer.

But you will be disappointed if you think that the crude, illiterate "goon squad" you have allowed free rein around here (dmw, narses, dirtboy, extremely extreme extremist, ReaganMan and several others - if I have slighted anyone, please email me if you want onto this list) will elevate the level of intellectual debate.

The result has been predictably in the other direction. That is what happens when you hire a bunch of brown shirts to enforce your own brand of political correctness.

Well, guess what? Politics is 99% BS and one can quite nicely live one's life without the need to bloviate about it. I know how I am going to vote. I could care less about anyone else. Life is too short to waste my time around here when I am clearly one of those made to feel like they are not welcome.

So, go ahead Jim -

MAKE MY DAY. BAN ME. I DARE YOU.

[arthurus]

The tone of the posting seems a bit much and of a piece with the hysteria of most of the pro-Giuliani posts and comments. That tone has certainly caused me to look more closely at what Mr. Giuliani has espoused and effected in the past and what he says or won’t say in the present. It has caused me to slide from being a supporter of anyone who can win against the Democrats and an admirer of Giuliani’s 911 record to being aghast that one such as he could even consider running as a Republican and claim the label Conservative.

[AnnaZ]

Oh, man, no thumbs? What’s gonna separate you from the animals now?

What separates him now?

= )

[LibKill]

You are flat wrong about Mr. Robinson, about Rooty and about FR in general.

[X-FID]

We'll probably need to use the crowbar again....

Good one.

[Not A Snowbird]

Nice one! Much better than some of the lame opuses (opii?) we've had around here lately.

[streetpreacher]

Yeah, this thread was started by a Rudy Basher...

Get real.

[NRA2BFree]

I'm sorry you left so quickly. I would prefer to say this to your face. Hopefully, you're still reading our posts. That's the thing you're going to miss the most. Once bitten, you can't just leave FR without coming back, over and over, but now you can't post. Awww, how sad!

What amazes me is that you bunch of losers fancy yourselves as conservatives. Anyone who supports Rudy, is NOT a conservative. When you lay with the pigs, you smell like the pigs, by association.

Thank God that Jim has taken the stand he has. You liberals were attacking a good man like Duncan Hunter simply because you think he can't beat Hillary. Well, that was the wrong thing to do. Obviously. LOL Have a nice life. ;o)

[Sir Gawain]

illiterate "goon squad" you have allowed free rein around here (dmw, narses, dirtboy, extremely extreme extremist, ReaganMan

dirtboy and Reagan Man a goon squad? Give me a break. Your type is just mad that "win at all costs" is no longer in fashion here after we held our nose and voted for Bush.

[Delphinium]

That is so much garbage. No one has ever stopped any of you from expressing your support for Rudy.

In fact it is many of you who have intimidated many more shy types on FR from posting there support for anyone but Rudy.

Conservatives are on that list of suspended freepers too.

It is when posters lie, and especially use their lies to tear down our Conservative heros like Ronald Reagan that finally pushed JR over the line. It wasn't simply your support for Rudy.

Get real. Thses are the same whining, threatening, tactics that liberal democrats always use.

[roaddog727]

Wow.

in the 200’s and no Zot yet..

SO,

IB4TZ!

[DelphiUser]

In B4 The ZOT!

[Pistolshot]

I'd send you Kleenex, but you've already been ZOTTED!!!!!!

[kidd]

[SJackson]

Can we cut to the chase?...So far, we have Giuliani, Romney, Thompson, and McCain leading. Who and where is the conservative in that batting order? On the key issue: Abortion. G, R, and T have all been outspokenly pro-choice in previous campaigns. Rudy and Romney did everything but hold the flashlight for abortions in their districts. McC hasn't spoken up against abortion on the floor of the Senate. Now, of course they are all tripping overthemselves to establish right-to-life positions, which I happen to believe they'll deliver, if selected, and then elected.

Well, in my view the key issue is the WOT, the Republican Partiy is fortunate in fielding several candidates qualified in that regard, Guiliani, Gingrich, Hunter, and perhaps Thompson.

Your choice of issues, on abortion by your definition that leaves us Gingrich, Hunter and McCain. Personally, I’d include Thompson.

But tripping over themselves?

Where is the clear leader, Rudy, tripping over himself to establish a right-to-life position?

I haven’t seen it, and the answer is he hasn’t.

Because he’s looking to the general election, and apparently confident enough to move to the center long before the convention.

Tripping over himself would mean, to me, at a minimum a clear public statement that he’d attempt no changes in the 2000 and 2004 Republican Platforms.

He’s tripping over himself on abortion as he’s tripping over himself on the 2nd amendment.

Not at all, he’s a talented candidate, thus a talented runner.

And I agree about the third party, along with the fourth, fifth, sixth et al.

I can't imagine any circumstance I'd vote for Rudy in the primary any more than I can imagine a circumstance I wouldn't vote for him in the general against what the Dems are showing.

It's only April.

[stockstrader]

You said, "Politics is 99% BS...."

Care to cite your source for that figure? But then I guess you would know....lol

Are you sure it's not 98%? or 97%?

You make a totally idiotic statement like that and expect us to take ANYTHING you say seriously? Unbelievable. At least you don't use hyperbole!!....LOL
If you truly believe that,,,,no wonder you support Rudy.

BYE!!!!

[highlander_UW]

Jim, if that quote of yours about setting up an organization to 'Swiftboat Rudy' is accurate as quoted in their article, the only thing I have to say to you is that you ought to be ashamed of yourself, as you have now become the back-stabber of the conservative cause.

Since the Swift boat veterans told the truth, you seem to have a problem with people speaking the truth about Rudy. You must be a liberal, because it's liberals who can't stand the truth.

[itsahoot]

Is the Ripon Society still around?

Ripon Society Wikopedia

[rbmillerjr]

I will not let the Party establishment shoe in a liberal on so many issues and then think they can get my vote.

If I just want to win, hell, why not join the Democrats for the high probability 08 win...(because I have principle)....but the Giuliani supporters who claim to be conservative have no principles, so the Dem Party is a great option for them.

My strong feeling is that Fred Thompson gets in in about a month and the tide turns, thus the Gary Hartization of Giuliani. If Thompson doesn’t get in Giuliani has a shot. But he will CERTAINLY lose the General election but libs will vote for the Dem and conservatives will not be activated..

So, if the GOP establishment wants to commit suicide, they can do it without me.

[Gone_Postal]

Be careful what you ask for ...you will get it...er you got it

[tet68]

Saddened, banned and illiterate is no way to go through life son.