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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Mom MD; Jim Robinson

I’m a newbie. It’s Jim’s site. I won’t dictate to anybody what they CAN say.

But, respectfully, I will add my name to yours in asking Jim politely, if he could consider a different use of language.

I’d also like it if, now that we’ve got this out of our system, some level of discipline could be re-instated for “friends of the forum” to not launch personal attacks on every person they disagree with.

I feel it detracts from the conversation. I’ve always bragged that conservatives could be distinguished from democrats by our considered language and discussion of policy over personal attacks, and I think that is true and should remain our greatest weapon.

Having thus said, I’m going to bed, and may not be back here tomorrow. I need a break and the constant barrage of insults is weighing me down.

Thanks to all. And Jim, I was serious, you should consider locking the thread for a few hours if you want to get some sleep. We could all live without if for the evening.


8,361 posted on 04/24/2007 9:23:37 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: DCPatriot

Why are you pinging me? I replied to a different member asking for anything interesting that happened in the last 500 posts.

As far as being out of context, I think the post speaks for itself.


8,362 posted on 04/24/2007 9:23:55 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: Politicalmom

Great chart!


8,363 posted on 04/24/2007 9:24:26 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I agree, get some sleep. Hey, why don’t you just lock up the thread for the night, and open it in the morning? I think we could all use a break.

Won't work. Would crash the servers tomorrow.
8,364 posted on 04/24/2007 9:24:32 PM PDT by dukakis kerry the dream team
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To: Tennessee Nana

or Gore in 2000 - his home state, but I know you know that. I just like to repeat it any time I can. And he blames his lost on FLA.


8,365 posted on 04/24/2007 9:24:32 PM PDT by del4hope (If your candidate doesn't respect an unborn life, they don't respect your life either.)
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To: Delphinium
I really don’t know. I just joked that I thought that a “Red Queen” was behind all these inexplicable “manchurian freepers.”
8,366 posted on 04/24/2007 9:24:38 PM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: flashbunny

Thanks about the M. Thatcher note. I swear that when I checked last night, her account was listed “banned or suspended”, but maybe I was mistaken.

I’m removing her from the list. My list is ONLY those whose names come up “banned or suspended”, not if they’ve opused out. If Jim is making them stay alive here, I’m not putting them on the list.

That’s weird though. Do you think Jim put her back on for a reason, or do you think I just got it wrong?


8,367 posted on 04/24/2007 9:27:09 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“But it doesn’t. It’s just a place to write, we can lock it and unlock it at will. Jim could wake up tomorrow, decide the weather looks nice, and re-instate the world. It’s all a virtual place anyway.

I was actually serious, I think some of us could use more sleep, I took a nap today it’s so bad.”

I wll sacrifice my sleep for yours. We are fighting a battle, far beyond people getting banned, committing freepercide and all that. I understand your thinking on this just being virtual, but so too is the power the left and media has held over others for too long. The sparks and passion for conservatism IMO is in full bloom right now.

I view this as quite simply one of several weapons we (conservatives) have at our disposal to defeat our enemy. I do respect your opinion as well of course. I may not be able to equal your civility (lol), but I will offer to be here in whatever capacity needed.


8,368 posted on 04/24/2007 9:29:21 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I checked several times after the notice of her email message, and never saw it as banned or suspended.


8,369 posted on 04/24/2007 9:29:28 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: flashbunny

Even the great people make mistakes,

So it’s no surprise I could have.


8,370 posted on 04/24/2007 9:30:39 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Delphinium

Is Howlin gone? I don’t think that’s right.


8,371 posted on 04/24/2007 9:34:40 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance; CharlesWayneCT

Yes it is... and I was asked to post it as a vanity.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821435/posts?page=6245#6245


8,372 posted on 04/24/2007 9:34:41 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1822650/posts

Knitting A Conundrum has this thread, I thought was appropriate.


8,373 posted on 04/24/2007 9:34:55 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

It’s been a wild thread. A lot of names were getting tossed around for who was on the ban list (AKA undocumented freepers) and that’s were it probably got added due to the e-opus.


8,374 posted on 04/24/2007 9:35:07 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: jedward
You are correct,,,time to pour it on,,,IMHO this thread should be “Nailed” to the side-bar for the next year !!

No Quarter !!

8,375 posted on 04/24/2007 9:35:14 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: jedward

You mean there are other threads on the forum??


8,376 posted on 04/24/2007 9:36:52 PM PDT by Mom MD (The scorn of fools is music to the ears of the wise)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

We have the initiative, and we must keep it at all costs! By the way, Rudy won’t last that long (lol).


8,377 posted on 04/24/2007 9:36:59 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I believe that should be Al Simmons, shouldn’t it?


8,378 posted on 04/24/2007 9:37:09 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Thanks for reminding me of the importance of character above self-promotion.
***That’s why I like Hunter. He would make a great president. But getting the candidacy moving is proving more challenging than I first thought. How do you self-promote when you’re not a self-promoter?


8,379 posted on 04/24/2007 9:37:52 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Politicalmom
Is Howlin gone?

Not gone gone, but missing since peach got zot.
8,380 posted on 04/24/2007 9:39:14 PM PDT by dukakis kerry the dream team
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