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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Tolsti

Who makes laws?

Congress.

Who controls Congress? Democrats.

So if you put a ‘liberal’ in the Whitehouse and bills are passed in the senate and house to totally outlaw ANY protest against abortion, then, who either VETOES or signs it into LAW?

That’s right. The ‘liberal’ president who is Pro-Abortion.


7,381 posted on 04/24/2007 1:09:39 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Registered; IrishRainy

Good grief.


7,382 posted on 04/24/2007 1:09:40 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Wormwood

In light of recent events, you tag’s a little passé.


7,383 posted on 04/24/2007 1:10:07 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (NRA Life Member)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
In light of recent events, you tag’s a little passé.

Touché!

7,384 posted on 04/24/2007 1:11:09 PM PDT by Wormwood (Future Former Freeper)
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To: Brad's Gramma

LOL!


7,385 posted on 04/24/2007 1:11:16 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (The greatest danger to our troops is the Congress of the United States.)
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To: Bigh4u2

With a democrat congress and likely to stay the same until the next Census report, and even then it’s a crap shot, I dunno how this subject is terribly relevent.


7,386 posted on 04/24/2007 1:11:31 PM PDT by Tolsti
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To: Bigh4u2

That is a scenario I do not want to see.


7,387 posted on 04/24/2007 1:11:33 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Wormwood

Olé!


7,388 posted on 04/24/2007 1:12:15 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (NRA Life Member)
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To: Wormwood

No, if he’s the GOP nominee, any swift voting is overwith. It’ll only help the democrat nominee at that point.. Or am I wrong?


7,389 posted on 04/24/2007 1:12:48 PM PDT by Tolsti
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To: Brad's Gramma

You know the crew.....nicknamedbob, etc.


7,390 posted on 04/24/2007 1:13:32 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: CarolinaGOP
So, what exactly is Rudy going to do? What are his plans for dealing with Afghanistan and Iraq?

I think the point Rudy-supporters are trying to make is that Rudy is better than Hillary when it comes to prosecuting the WOT, and that only Rudy can actually beat Hillary. According to that logic, if we want to be tough on terror, we MUST elect Rudy, otherwise we'll get Hillary.

Convoluted logic, but it makes sense if you start with the premise that only Rudy can beat Hillary, which most Rudy-supporters ardently believe.

7,391 posted on 04/24/2007 1:13:49 PM PDT by The Blitherer ("What the devil is keeping the Yanks?")
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To: pissant

Ping me.

Make me laugh.


7,392 posted on 04/24/2007 1:14:09 PM PDT by agent_delta
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To: Tolsti

If you reverse the order of what I posted and put ‘republicans’ in charge, then a ‘Dan Qualye’ president can indeed affect law.

Any other scenario would be a ‘wash’.


7,393 posted on 04/24/2007 1:14:15 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Bob’s got a nickname?

Wow. Go feeger.


7,394 posted on 04/24/2007 1:14:37 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Gelato

PBA was a line drawn for many people, gratefully. The pro-death crowd has stepped over that line and revealed their true intentions.

I can remember a time when I was young and pro-choice for others, but pro-life for myself. It didn’t hit me until years following my refusal to go with my niece for her procedure when asked to. I was all high and mighty for not getting involved. Then, I watched her self destruction over a period of time. My crime was avoiding it and not encouraging her to do otherwise from the start. I see things very different now. Gratefully, my niece has recovered, only by the grace of Our Lord.


7,395 posted on 04/24/2007 1:14:46 PM PDT by del4hope (If your candidate doesn't respect an unborn life, they don't respect your life either.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I guarantee you that if Rudy Giulian becomes the nominee, it’s going to get worse for you.

Gosh, I hope not. I do think it likely that Rudy gets the nomination, and wins the Presidency.

I respect your feelings for him. I don't share them, of course, but you've always been very fair to me.

But of course, it isn't much fun to try and be a part of a political discussion where folks are simply calling me names over and over. I don't mind the flames, but I'm here for open, honest political discussion and debate with folks who think differently.

If it becomes too uncomfortable for most folks to express dissenting opinions here, I think that wouldn't be sad.

7,396 posted on 04/24/2007 1:14:53 PM PDT by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: Dominic Harr; Deb
The level of flames just use to be much, much lower.

You're kidding, right?

Search some of Deb's old posts and get back to me.

Look at some of the discussions from 1999 as well.

7,397 posted on 04/24/2007 1:14:53 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Me either.


7,398 posted on 04/24/2007 1:14:55 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: NinoFan
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7,399 posted on 04/24/2007 1:15:39 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Brad's Gramma

: )


7,400 posted on 04/24/2007 1:15:52 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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