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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: politicalwit; areafiftyone; Corin Stormhands

Yes, what credentials does Rudy Giuliani have in regard to fighting terrorism?


721 posted on 04/21/2007 9:38:40 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: garv

“I honestly don’t know what “Poppy” did although I imagine I could find out,”

Do you remember “READ MY LIPS! NO NEW TAXES!”

And nearly right after he was elected cow towed to the democratics and signed a ‘tax increase bill’.


722 posted on 04/21/2007 9:39:01 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: woofie

Oh, okay. Thanks.

Yes, we are a big tent party and we used to be known as a party that accepted independent thought, although I can see that concept is relatively foreign here.


723 posted on 04/21/2007 9:39:03 PM PDT by Peach
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To: M. Thatcher; Jim Robinson

Y’all chill out.

We all have our moments of weakness.


724 posted on 04/21/2007 9:39:15 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: All

Wow, it seems the forces of RINO land are here in force now...a concerted effort by the Rudybots...lol.


725 posted on 04/21/2007 9:39:31 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: Hawk1976
A Rudy victory with or without conservative support will totally destroy the conservative movement.

It might not ruin the conservative movement but it would destroy the Republican party.

AS Jim Rob said:

"You might as well be asking us to deny God. To deny the Creator that gave us life and liberty. To give up our children. To surrender our country to the left. To give up our freedom. To give up our faith and our belief in God's Word.

I agree with those words.
726 posted on 04/21/2007 9:39:34 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Peach

I am hoping for a Gingrich or Thompson.

I cannot vote for Rudy or Mitt. (Gun grabbing)

I cannot vote for McCain. (He’s nuts)

I do not care about so called baggage the Conservatives are up against. It does not compare with the baggage the dem candidates bring to the table.


727 posted on 04/21/2007 9:39:54 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Just say no to Brady Bunch Republicans.)
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To: Reagan Man
Jeeez...let Jim make those decisions.
Try not to take everything so personally. Until your a mod...your not.
728 posted on 04/21/2007 9:40:01 PM PDT by Blackirish
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To: Enosh

Xacly. Gnight all. Dream of a Rinoless America!


729 posted on 04/21/2007 9:40:35 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: SoCalPol

Malignant Self Love - Narcissim Revisited.

By Sam Vaiknin.

Your comment made me think of that intriguing treatise. Not going over to that other place for sure now.


730 posted on 04/21/2007 9:41:23 PM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you Jim - I’m with you all the way!


731 posted on 04/21/2007 9:41:25 PM PDT by alicewonders (I like Duncan Hunter for President in 2008!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I like Gingrich (sometimes) and was surprised when FNC posted a poll among Republicans that showed his unfavorable ratings in the 60 percentile.

Regardless, I’ll vote for whomever the Republican candidate is.

McCain really messed up with his song about bombing Iran!


732 posted on 04/21/2007 9:41:30 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Jim Robinson

Quite frankly, Mr. Robinson,

I don’t know what to expect.

Am I clear in understanding that the Patriot Act is anathema, and that we should pull out out Iraq?

I’m not going to insinuate that we entered Iraq for a stupid reason.

Two things wholly bother me about the way it is that things are right now: Washington’s admonition not to become entangled in foreighn affairs, and Franklins warning that those who trade liberty for security will soon lose both in short order.

Only you, Mr Jim Robinson can answer that question with any sense of authority. How do you feel about NSA letters being served to you?

Please be explicit if you’ve not received any, and that if you do receive them, you will not comply.

We live in very troubling and difficult times, and I’m skeptical that its as simple as you suggest that it may be.

On the other hand, isn’t it convieniant to create a crises whereby the government is granted greater authority? I’m alluding to the “Pincer Movement” that every rational individual on this board likes to throw away/trash as being some sort of CFR/globalist elite paranoia.

The foregoing notwithstanding, and nevertheless, I’m certain that you are undoubtedly correct.

I nominate Jim Robinson for President of the United States of America.


733 posted on 04/21/2007 9:41:58 PM PDT by raygun (Freepmail me if you're a venture capitalist interested to finance my gay robot invention.)
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To: Cincinna

A Republican whose views largely are the same as Clinton’s in his own words, would be better?

If I have to fight a liberal, then let that liberal be from the party that is osetnibly liberal.


734 posted on 04/21/2007 9:42:19 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die than to live as a slave.)
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To: Peach

“First we were treasonous liberals. Now I’m an idiot and a liar.”

A cathartic memoir?


735 posted on 04/21/2007 9:42:31 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: samadams2000

Amen. Sweet dreams.


736 posted on 04/21/2007 9:42:34 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
If we choose Rudy, we will be betraying the country, by leading them in the wrong direction. To do so just for ephemeral power is wrong. Better to have Hillary, at least we will have done what we could to lead people in the right direction.

Thanks for identifying yourself as a Cut & Run Republican. I bet you are one of those who voted Democrat in 2006 just to teach the Republicans a lesson.

737 posted on 04/21/2007 9:42:45 PM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: Peach
, we are a big tent party and we used to be known as a party that accepted independent thought, although I can see that concept is relatively foreign here.

Would you like it if we were excepting socialism outright the way the democrats do?
738 posted on 04/21/2007 9:43:01 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: M. Thatcher
You cannot be the Jim Robinson I came to respect all these years. Not possible.

An apology at this moment would be highly appropriate.

739 posted on 04/21/2007 9:43:42 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yep! Lot’s going on here, would really appreciate a personal chat with ya!

You know, I appreciate your candor.

FReepmail tomorrow. Thank you, and I will be thinking about our common goals.


740 posted on 04/21/2007 9:44:13 PM PDT by laurenmarlowe
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