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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: La Enchiladita

If we didn’t laugh a little, we’d go plum crazy!


4,321 posted on 04/22/2007 10:38:17 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm; EternalVigilance

I have a lot of questions for Thompson.....I don’t know for sure if he will go “wobbly” on illegal immigration....and anyone who knows me here it is my passion to stop it.

One thing I do know.....I would not vote for Rudy if he cut a check, and retired my whole family tree!!!!


4,322 posted on 04/22/2007 10:38:26 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: papasmurf

Jim ain’t done yet : )


4,323 posted on 04/22/2007 10:39:41 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: ellery
Again, CFR was a rare lapse of judgement for Thompson

Wow, can a "lapse" last throughout a political career, and up until this very hour? Because that's the story of Fred Thompson and the attack on the First Amendment known as campaign finance reform.

..but the story is more ambiguous than you portray.

Actually, it's not.

4,324 posted on 04/22/2007 10:40:11 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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To: rbmillerjr
More than one person has done it.

I will do whatever I can to campaign for a conservative in the primary season, with every fiber of my very conservative being.

And I think this should be my last post on this thread........ I have made every point I have wanted to make at least three times. :)

4,325 posted on 04/22/2007 10:40:23 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

4,326 posted on 04/22/2007 10:40:52 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Steer clear of entangling alliances with any portion of the foreign world." -George Washington-)
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To: WFTR

Nice civil response FRiend ...the only one I had.... I’m one of the few Rudy guys left...tho I like Thompson. It’s too late for me to counter will get back later..have a good week...Bobby


4,327 posted on 04/22/2007 10:41:10 PM PDT by Blackirish
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To: BigSkyFreeper

“Would you shake someone’s hand after they punched you in the face?”

LOL, who got punched in the face? yeesh
...but no I’d kick their groin or knee first then I’d thrust my palm into their nose and finish with an elbow to the top of the head...but that’s just me.


4,328 posted on 04/22/2007 10:41:20 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: B4Ranch

LOL


4,329 posted on 04/22/2007 10:41:26 PM PDT by colorcountry (He Who the Son Has Set Free, Is Free Indeed)
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To: Blackirish
Screw that! You think we can save the house by burning it down?

I'm not advocating it, I'm merely commenting on the course the conservative movement appears to be heading. But, not to worry, it will most likely have no bearing on the results.

Here's how it's gonna play out, based on calculations made by people & organizations who have millions invested in the outcome:

o some conservatives will stand by their principles and walk;
o other conservatives will hold their noses and vote for Rudy;
o regular GOP regulars will vote for whoever is on the ticket;
o more than enough Dems to offset boycotting Conservatives will swing towards Rudy to put him over the top.

The blueprint for 2008 is California; Arnie can't run due to his birth. Rudy is just an east-coast version of Arnie.

The net result is that we stick it out in Iraq until we win, but the GOP trends further left.

4,330 posted on 04/22/2007 10:41:35 PM PDT by Chuck Dent
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To: politicalwit
No offense, but I’m getting tired of seeing Giuliani’s ugly mug.



4,331 posted on 04/22/2007 10:42:11 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Rudy Giuliani gets his salsa from New York City.)
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To: rbmillerjr
LOL, who got punched in the face?

Plenty of people do, just for supporting one candidate or another, happens daily.

4,332 posted on 04/22/2007 10:43:04 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: ohioWfan

-—I will do whatever I can to campaign for a conservative in the primary season, with every fiber of my very conservative being.-—

that should be made into bumper stickers! Coffee cups logos!
Sig lines.

That should be the slogan of everyone here.

I will do whatever I can to campaign for a conservative in the primary season, with every fiber of my very conservative being.

That needs to be a pledge we all make!


4,333 posted on 04/22/2007 10:43:23 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: politicalwit

>Giuliani’s ugly mug<

Ugly? Yeah, he is. He looks worse than I do in the morning and I can make kids scream in fright.


4,334 posted on 04/22/2007 10:43:34 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Steer clear of entangling alliances with any portion of the foreign world." -George Washington-)
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To: B4Ranch
We're just trying to help the Rudymites too:


4,335 posted on 04/22/2007 10:44:52 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Rudy Giuliani gets his salsa from New York City.)
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To: Mom MD
you apparently did not hang out on the crevo threads. I had vile things said about my personal character as well as general lack of intelligence for daring to believe God created the world. :)

Oh, yeah, I've read those threads, but never posted in them because it all seemed so pointless. Those threads have always seemed to me to be the one liberal bastion on the board. Unless you are a naive newbie soul, it's generally known that a Christian entering those threads is entering into the lion's den and you enter at your own risk. At least you could always leave those threads and wipe the mud off your feet and go out into the rest of the board where your Christian views were valued :)

4,336 posted on 04/22/2007 10:44:58 PM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

“Plenty of people do, just for supporting one candidate or another, happens daily.”

Sounds like union leftist politics to me.


4,337 posted on 04/22/2007 10:45:14 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: NapkinUser

Those pics are hilarious


4,338 posted on 04/22/2007 10:46:12 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
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4,339 posted on 04/22/2007 10:46:35 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: Chuck Dent

Conservatives are going to have to take a sabbatical in order to refine, polish & prepare the message for when a suitable standard-bearer appears.
***Good news! The sabbatical is over. Duncan Hunter is that man. Now let’s see what you can do to increase this true conservative’s name recognition, okay?


4,340 posted on 04/22/2007 10:47:22 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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