Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

[EternalVigilance]

I don’t have a candidate as of right now.

[DCPatriot]

The "Blame Conservatives-first" Republicans just don't give up.

If the shoe fits.....

[Mo1]

“I’m afraid your reading is, shall we say, incomplete.”

From the “Official LP site

http://www.lp.org/issues/platform_all.shtml

National Platform of the Libertarian Party
(snip)

.9 Sexuality and Gender

The Issue: Politicians use popular fears and taboos to legally impose a particular code of moral and social values. Government regularly denies rights and privileges on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity.

The Principle: Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships. Government does not have legitimate authority to define or license personal relationships. Sexuality or gender should have no impact on the rights of individuals.

Solutions: Culture wars, social friction and prejudice will fade when marriage and other personal relationships are treated as private contracts, solely defined by the individuals involved, and government discrimination is not allowed.

Transitional Action: Repeal the federal Defense of Marriage Act and state laws and amendments defining marriage. Oppose any new laws or Constitutional amendments defining terms for personal, private relationships. Repeal any state or federal law assigning special benefits to people based on marital status, family structure, sexual orientation or gender identification. Repeal any state or federal laws denying same-sex partners rights enjoyed by others, such as adoption of children and spousal immigration. End the Defense Department practice of discharging armed forces personnel for sexual orientation. Upgrade all less-than-honorable discharges previously assigned solely for such reasons to honorable status, and delete related information from military personnel files. Repeal all laws discriminating by gender, such as protective labor laws and marriage, divorce, and custody laws which deny the full rights of each individual

[FreeReign]

I don’t have a candidate as of right now.

LOL!

[Chena]

Wasn’t gonna do it....tried to hold back....but....gotta say it............NAILED IT! ROFLMAO!

[mkjessup]

Why the surprise folks?

I made an observation about Fred Thompson (and I qualified that by stating that I DO like him), reminding me of a 'Southern-fried Gerald Ford' and the fact is that Thompson IS (as EV put it) quite bipartisan, he may not be a typical 'country-club Republican', but I'm sure he feels more than comfortable with them.

Remember, Thompson was already active in the GOP as minority counsel for the Watergate Committee in *1974*, and that was long before the Republican Party achieved a true course correction and became the Party of Reagan. In '74, the GOP was a middle-of-the-road, moderately liberal on social issues party, and that was the environment from which Fred Thompson emerged.

Now the snide 'And so it starts' comment is utterly without basis: I made an observation, nothing more, and I reiterated my own support of Duncan Hunter, while pointing out Thompson's more 'middle of the road' views.

So don't get all worked up for no reason, ok?

[FreeReign]

Wasn’t gonna do it....tried to hold back....but....gotta say it............NAILED IT! ROFLMAO!

Hmmmmmmmmmmm....no comment. :)

[EternalVigilance]

So don't get all worked up for no reason, ok?

Are you kidding? This is what they live for.

[NautiNurse]

Is there dissension among the ranking officers?

I am busy, you you cookie baker interrupter! Back to the kitchen I go...

[Chena]

I don’t have a candidate as of right now.

I'm sorry, but I'm laughing right now...not AT you, but your comment brought to mind the "church lady" on Saturday Night Live. "HOW CONVEEEEEEEENIENT". ROFL!

[Chena]

LOL Gotta go eat dinner..... ;)

[EternalVigilance]

Really, little has changed, in the end. The pack is back on the scent. Sad.

[mkjessup]

So don't get all worked up for no reason, ok?
Are you kidding? This is what they live for.

Geeeez EV, you would have thought I had posted an animated graphic of an Office Depot repair guy punching out a copy machine, or made a joke about a pair of trolls or something, you know? ;)

[DCPatriot]

I'm watching you! I got my eye on you! {{{picture DiNiro}}} LOL!

[FreeReign]

LOL Gotta go eat dinner..... ;)

Goodnight Chena. :)

[cyborg]

Yes you do :D

[Shortstop7]

You are a fool.......

[EternalVigilance]

Yeah. Pretty much.

[mkjessup]

I'm watching you! I got my eye on you! {{{picture DiNiro}}} LOL!
Ahhhhh jeez.....

[EternalVigilance]

You want to know the saddest part of all? These are typical of who is running the country, and who is likely to for the forseeable future.