Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

[bjs1779]

The ritual beheading followed by dancing is only a celebration that means nothing.

Since you were an ardent defender of Terri Schiavo from getting starved to death, I will take your word on that. And that means something. Did I get something wrong here?

[dirtboy]

Apparently nobody cares if it becomes an anti-GOP site next year and what that might mean for this forum.

If the GOP moves so far left that FR becomes an anti-GOP forum, what happens to FR will be the least of our problems.

[Dog Gone]

We have almost a year to get a nominee chosen. No need to worry about the hypothetical matchup if we fail in the primaries.

That's how I'd like to feel about it, but I don't know how many thousand posts have been made on this thread regarding people's intentions if the "wrong" candidate wins the nomination. I'm not sure I'm being more hypothetical than they are and trying to extrapolate the consequences of that, not to the election, but to this forum.

I'm not even really worried about the election yet. I haven't heard many candidates. I barely know who Jim Gilmore is. We haven't had the first debate, and you're right, the election is far off.

But we're slashing and killing and threatening our own, proclaiming what we'll do next year.

So yeah, maybe I'm thinking about what happens if those threats are fulfilled. I wondered if anyone else had similar concerns.

Maybe it's best that I stay away from threads like this, because they make me incredibly uncomfortable. I don't like what's going on at FR right now at all.

[Dog Gone]

I do want to thank you for originally posting that autograph page. It made me get my own from Steyn. I’ll treasure my book and special message forever.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

Sunny and hot here. Had to water the grass and weed the rosebed...evil little grass sproutlets...but I have a bunch of rosebuds.

[Iwo Jima]

No.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

mmmmmmmail!

[bannie]

So...the game's STILL afoot?

I thought we were done in here...

[Dog Gone]

Guess what? This still isn’t a Terri thread.

[Iwo Jima]

One riot, one ranger.

[bjs1779]

Guess what? This still isn’t a Terri thread.

The ritual beheading

Guess what? We don't like to kill people here.

[Chena]

I don’t know what to say, except “thank you” for such a lovely compliment for me...and Alaska. Alaska, it truly is spectacular! :)

[Iwo Jima]

I am a libertarian who has quite a lot in common with social conservatives “which is the very litmus test that is the topic of this thread,” as you put it.

[Enosh]

... And another thing...

If you look at a map of Arizona and see the word River AKA “Wash”, it’s misleading.

What they mean is, “more dirt.”

[Dog Gone]

Coulda fooled me.

[jedward]

Thanks, and you as well.

[Iwo Jima]

My point is that libertarians are typically fiscally conservative, and socially liberal. They are the very people that are part of the FR community that this thread was intended to silence from stating those views.

It appears that you don't know all that much about libertarians. Or maybe you don't know that much about manners.

It never occurred to me that this thread was intended to silence me. Quite the contrary, I found it most liberating and affirming.

[tapatio]

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[jedward]

Hey Enosh!

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

Need mo’pine straw ‘round ‘em,,,;0)