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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Nick Danger; EternalVigilance; NautiNurse
see you have found another girl to beat up. Biff! Bam! Pow! One fist of iron! The other of steel! You defeated the mighty sissyjane! Perhaps now you can run off NautiNurse.

NautiNurse picked this particular fight. And came out the worse for it.

17,261 posted on 05/01/2007 10:11:52 AM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: don-o
“Your #16,753...you might ask the mods to pull that one if you can’t follow through.”

Thank you for posting the number. I would suggest you reread my previous post to you and proceed accordingly. Or sit here an flounder. You’re not engaging me in dialog right now, I’m not going to get upset, and I won’t get into name calling. I suspect that will disappoint, but I can’t please everyone.

17,262 posted on 05/01/2007 10:12:12 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Nick Danger
I see you have found another girl to beat up.

Sorry you have such a low opinion of women that you think they need you to fight online battles for them.

17,263 posted on 05/01/2007 10:12:41 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: rbmillerjr

“Some of you who lost need to let it go, you’re looking desperate.”

You speak the truth FRiend. Thanks for saying it.


17,264 posted on 05/01/2007 10:13:04 AM PDT by dmw (Conservatives DON'T vote for liberals.)
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To: Nick Danger; NautiNurse

“Perhaps now you can run off NautiNurse. This forum needs you a lot more than it needs her, right?”

NN is her own undoing in this case. Read the thread.


17,265 posted on 05/01/2007 10:13:54 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Jesus Lamb of God...Have Mercy On us")
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To: EternalVigilance
In the movie Open Range, it was said of the character Mose that he didn't start fights, he finished them.
17,266 posted on 05/01/2007 10:14:55 AM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: Melas
... it's not that I don't respect your RIGHT to direct your vote as you see fit. It's that I absolutely fear the demise of the two party system. No good can come of it, no good at all.

I fully support the two-party system and prefer it continue. However, the system I truly fear is a one-party system, one that cripples the system of checks and balances. While you didn't address the second part of my post, I believe it hit on that issue. If the GOP offers up a candidate that looks more like Ted Kennedy than Ronald Reagan, is there really a two-party system? And what should I think of a candidate (R) who expects me to vote for him but really doesn't agree with much of what I think is important, or what is in the Republican platform? Should I believe they are going to fight for Republican causes, despite the record to the contrary? Or, should I think they will join with liberals the same way they have for a lifetime? I think you can guess my answer.

Under similar logic as you seem to suggest, we've created a monster in California (R) with our Governor. He has joined with democrats in multi-million acre land-grabs, big government programs, huge borrowing initiatives, and horrendous global warming legislation (to name a few). In each case, he was opposed by an almost unanimous minority of hte Republican legislature. He calls this "bipartisanship" or "post-partisanship" or governing from the "middle" as long as he, a Republican, agrees with the democrats. I fear this same phenomena at a national level.

The obvious solution I see is that all Republicans and Conservatives should be fighting like mad to make sure that Rudy does NOT get the nomination and working to support an alternative Republican candidate in the primaries. Instead, I see more posts like yours, trying to justify why Rudy should get people's support if he should somehow be able to win the nomination(R). People have spoken--they won't support him. Trying to bully them into it with "heaps of derision and abuse" shows Zero respect to that person and their right to act and vote on their principles. That's my two cents, anyway.

17,267 posted on 05/01/2007 10:15:57 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Nick Danger
I see you have found another girl to beat up. Biff! Bam! Pow! One fist of iron! The other of steel! You defeated the mighty sissyjane! Perhaps now you can run off NautiNurse. This forum needs you a lot more than it needs her, right?

Quite frankly, that is the kind of off-topic, nonsensical crap that too many of the departed posters engaged in. You can't be bothered to see that Nauti Nurse started this particular spat over hotlinking. Instead, you make some kind of offhand attack on EV for responding to an attack that someone else initiated.

17,268 posted on 05/01/2007 10:19:35 AM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: rbmillerjr

Some things are never over.


17,269 posted on 05/01/2007 10:20:05 AM PDT by don-o (Proudly posting without reading the thread since 1998.)
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To: rbmillerjr
Some of you who lost need to let it go, you’re looking desperate.

Not until someone performs an exorcism on EternalVigilance.
17,270 posted on 05/01/2007 10:22:53 AM PDT by mutley
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To: dirtboy
>>>>In the movie Open Range, it was said of the character Mose that he didn't start fights, he finished them.

Real good western. Hoss Cartwright had the same MO.

17,271 posted on 05/01/2007 10:26:06 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Oh, isn’t that special? Nauti Nurse altered her link!


17,272 posted on 05/01/2007 10:28:52 AM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: don-o

“Some things are never over.”

It won’t do any good to let this eat you up, those 30 or so are gone, and in almost all the cases they chose to go.


17,273 posted on 05/01/2007 10:29:00 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Jesus Lamb of God...Have Mercy On us")
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To: Nick Danger
“I see you have found another girl to beat up. Biff! Bam! Pow! One fist of iron! The other of steel! You defeated the mighty sissyjane! Perhaps now you can run off NautiNurse. This forum needs you a lot more than it needs her, right?”

So fair and unbiased arent you? Why don’t you ask your naughty friend to stop trying to stir things up here? Her only purpose of posting here today is to disrupt this thread and harass EV. Do you like that? Do you agree with what she’s doing? Read all of her nasty, snide comments and tell me that she needs you to come to her defense. Play fair man or butt out!

17,274 posted on 05/01/2007 10:30:29 AM PDT by dmw (Conservatives DON'T vote for liberals.)
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To: dirtboy

You noticed.


17,275 posted on 05/01/2007 10:30:37 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: don-o

“Some things are never over.”

For bitter people who hold grudges—yes.


17,276 posted on 05/01/2007 10:32:24 AM PDT by dmw (Conservatives DON'T vote for liberals.)
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To: EternalVigilance; NautiNurse
First she steals copyrighted images, and then she tries to weasel out of getting caught by you - by having the nerve to replace the copyrighted image with her graphic accusing you of stealing.

She just lost all credibility she might have had for calling for the threads to be more civil. If she had any character, she just would have said "you're right" and left it there.

Getting rid of the evidence was bad enough. Replacing it with her attack image was despicable.

17,277 posted on 05/01/2007 10:33:06 AM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: dirtboy

Never thought I’d see you calling Nauti Nurse a hypocrite. I’ve enjoyed your posts in the past, and perhaps will in the future, but I’m more than disheatened to see you descend to name calling and jumping on a bandwagon that cheers the demise of people who have served freerepublic and conservatism well, people who would have continued to serve freerepublic well, had it not been for this little witch hunt that some idiots are having such fun with.

Never thought I’d see the day when freerepublic was a discredit to conservatism, either, though. But I’m seeing it now.


17,278 posted on 05/01/2007 10:33:15 AM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: rbmillerjr; Jim Robinson
Don't you worry about me. I'll be fine.

I stayed out of the fray (for my own reasons.) But, I will continue to hold the mob and owner to account for the tone that has been allowed to take over on this thread if it permeates the rest of the board.

If that puts me in the crosshairs - go for it!

17,279 posted on 05/01/2007 10:33:54 AM PDT by don-o (Proudly posting without reading the thread since 1998.)
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To: Sam Cree
Never thought I’d see you calling Nauti Nurse a hypocrite.

Read further. She ends up admitting her beef was about content, not hotlinking.

And then when she is caught with a copyrighted picture on her website, she changes the image to her attack graphic on EV.

I take no pleasure in getting after her. But she started a stupid fight with EV and got the worst of it.

17,280 posted on 05/01/2007 10:35:35 AM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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