Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

[Knitting A Conundrum]

It was rude, and I too felt it was in very bad taste.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

I’m saying that if you don’t want to leave, you aren’t behaving in a way that would get you banned. No power of mine.

[mkjessup]

Really? You get to decide if I stay? Or Jessup decides whether or not I leave? What IS this? I have been here since 1998 and have never seen anything as bad as this. I am just astounded at the level of hatefulness.

I don't decide a thing. That is entirely up to the individual poster if they choose to opus out, and/or JimRob, and for somebody who has been here since '98, you know that.

btw, thanks for the ping.

[wagglebee]

This old separation of Church and State is so overrated...

And since the phrase in in the constitution of the defunct Soviet Union and not in the Constitution of the United States, discussing it is a moot point.

[mystery-ak]

I am very lucky....Jon is able to email me at least once a day unless he is on a mission...most emails consist of *I’m okay, just checking in*.....that’s all I want or need....

[ScreamingFist]

My comment about you stands.

Let it go....this nimrod is here to disrupt.....

[KevinDavis]

Read the Bill of Rights..

[ScreamingFist]

I am very lucky....Jon is able to email me at least once a day unless he is on a mission...most emails consist of *I’m okay, just checking in*.....that’s all I want or need....

Best news of the day.....;)

[mkjessup]

I'm not in this "pissing" match

You must be, you injected yourself into it, and it is not a pissing match.

you look foolish for an old timer

Not as foolish as somebody trying to play referee, especially when not even needed OR invited.

.....in the old days we took it off thread....I guess having class is a thing of the past.....

Oh you mean 'class' like screaming at me to 'STFU'? Oooookay. Look pal, it has nothing to do with the 'old days' or 'class', it is free and open communication in this thread, and anyone is free to post what they think.

If some former Freepers have posted their opus and run out the door, or pushed the limits until they get zotted, that was their choice.

I responded to posts that were made to me. That's my business pal.

[wagglebee]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

I see where it says that Congress cannot establish a national relition and I see where it says that Congress cannot prohibit the free exercise of religion. What I DO NOT SEE is any mention of separation of church and state.

[ScreamingFist]

LOL

[mkjessup]

Your lack of civility and common posting decency is obvious to anyone with any clear idea of FR, or of conservatism. You should really grow up.

Take your faux indignation to Miss Marple and Screaming Fist, authors of "you are a little vulgar worm" and "STFU!"

Hey, if someone can't stand the heat, get outta the kitchen.

[gpapa]

Comments #5 from WA

On abt. 29-Apr-2009 (My comment: the Salt River and Chat categories are closed to non-members)

AnnieLaurie
CommentTime39 minutes ago permalinkReport Post

Posted By: Merry
People, we need to get over the FR site and start posting articles and commenting. We have to help WA grow. I know it's hard to find interesting articles because the MSM is treating all Republican candidates with a big yawn, but we need things to discuss besides FR which is getting old quickly.

Hi Merry, I think a big part of it is that people need to vent a bit about what happened and circumstances that brought them here, and it usually involves TOS. Some have just arrived here and others have been here a few days or weeks. It's a relief to see old friends on threads and natural to want to touch on what occurred there. That said, I think as new posters settle in and learn their way around, they'll see that the Salt River area and chat are the best places to discuss TOS.

Yes, it can be hard to find good news articles. An alternative would be to post threads with opinion pieces by favorite columnists. I'm pretty computer challenged and never posted a thread on another site but found it quite easy to do so here.

P.S. I am not computer challenged.

Regards,
gpapa

[ScreamingFist]

lol

[Chena]

That’s wonderful, mystery-ak. I know how comforting that is for you. :)

[Not A Snowbird]

I’m intrigued. What exactly is your point?

[KevinDavis]

Article 6 - Debts, Supremacy, Oaths

All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

[RunningWolf]

//hated all 'mouth breathing' Christians all along//

And that's what really unites them regardless of whatever else they say they have in common.

Man you can say that again, they are in full foaming frothing rabid hatred mode, with one of the worst being also makes claims to be Christian, but somehow always falls in line with pretty much anything an atheist/ evolutionist's has to say, acts offended by vulgarity and then goes on to repeat it over and over again.

[wagglebee]

Correct, government officials cannot be bound by any religious test. You have yet to show anything that indicates that there is a “separation of church and state.”

[mkjessup]

My comment about you stands. Your definition of a harmless joke is not the same as mine, nor of anyone with normal good manners.

Or perhaps anyone who possesses overly delicate sensibilities.

You are trying to intimidate me by posting sign-up information from wideawakes. Too bad for you, as I am not intimidated by such juvenile stuff.

If I wanted to intimidate you, you would know it. You joined Wide Awakes. I already told you I admired your honesty. You've already stated you wanted to stay in touch with one or more people over there, so what's your problem then?

If you can't stand being called a vulgar little worm, then I suggest you quit acting like one.

Hmmm, that's twice inside an hour.

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- Billy Crystal 'Mr Saturday Night' ;)