Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

[EternalHope]

I'm not interested in a purge. I never have been. I'm interested in FReepers treating other FReepers - and even our worst enemies - with a sense of decency. No profanity. No personal attacks. I always have been.

What I'm LEAST interested in is participating in a forum that descends into an echo chamber because a very small group of FReepers decides to bully those who dare stray an inch from the party line. Those who are doing so should remember what ultimately happened to Robespierre.

Well said.

I've been here since 1998. I was proud to call myself a FReeper. Now I hardly recognize the place.

[EternalVigilance]

Whatever.

[Kevmo]

The internet, the bane of hack politicians. No longer can they get away with saying one thing to one audience and another to a different audience.
***Oooh, almost tagline worthy. I’m starting to shop around.

[EternalVigilance]

You're very right there...you don't.

But you do, right? Who are you supporting Jackson?

[conservative in nyc]

Well if you’re new, you’re forgiven. But I’m pretty sure you were here, so that you’re selective memory seems to forget that many of these trollish Rudybots were the bullies - mass attacks on anybody who dared go against them.

Prolific posters from 1998 may be Rudybots, but they're certainly not trolls if they've managed to stick around here for that long. As I understand it, before the purge began, any "mass attack" by Rudybots was countered by mass attacks by a small minority of Rudy-haters. Because of the purge, the mass attack by the small minority of Rudy-haters on anyone deemed impure by them continues, now unchecked.

This has created an atmosphere of fear - don't correct any misstatements or half-truths about Rudy, lest you be jumped. When you think about it, turning this website into an echo chamber is even not in the most rabid Rudy-haters' interest - spread incorrect information once, and few will believe you when you tell the truth later.

I've said it before and will say it again - please think before you post. The Free Republic posting page even says it - Loose lips sink ships. No profanity. No personal attacks.

[CWOJackson]

As I’ve plainly stated before, it’s wayyyyyy to early for me to select a candidate, but I can tell you this much...it won’t ever be anyone who supports slave reparations. That doesn’t take a lot of thought.

[Rheo]

Now listen Howlin’s friend, I told you to hold me, because I know you’re here for me...and I mean it.

Are you using Howlin's name to sexually harass?

[La Enchiladita]

[EternalVigilance]

As I’ve plainly stated before, it’s wayyyyyy to early for me to select a candidate, but I can tell you this much...it won’t ever be anyone who supports slave reparations. That doesn’t take a lot of thought.

I see. You're a one-issue voter. Got it.

[Chena]

He was trying to introduce the idea of eliminating the federal income tax to the inner city black community, you liberal dufus.

I wouldn't think a conservative Republican would support an attempt by Keyes to push a liberal, socialist, reverse discriminatory tax exempt statis for inner city blacks.

[La Enchiladita]

[EternalHope]

Nobody's howlin' and doggin' folks around here more than you these days. Why do you need to be the bully? Does pounding taunts and attacks out on your keyboard make you feel more conservative than the rest of us?

Well said Nauti.

[Kevmo]

That certainly jibes with my experience over the last few months.

[EternalVigilance]

Do you support Alan’s longtime desire to eliminate the federal income tax for all Americans?

[Chena]

statis = status

[FreeReign]

Amendment 14 | Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments protect human life against the federal government. It is the Ninth Amendment that says, unalienable rights not enumerated do exist and it is the Tenth Amendment that says these non enumerated rights are best protected by the states.

Idiotic. The Fourteenth Amendment clarifies the Fifth Amendment, and couldn't be clearer on this subject.. Don't you know how to read?

Section 1 of the 14th Amendment states that no state shall abridge rights protected by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The 5th and the 14th clearly talk about protecting life against the federal government with out due process -- and it says nothing further on the subject.

Your interpretation is circular and -- idiotic.

[Petronski]

If you are going to defend slave reparations, you’ll need to do a lot better than that.

[CWOJackson]

LOL! Nice try EV. Nope, many issues concern me. The fact that your guy believes in slave reparations simply is too silly to seriously consider him.

[EternalVigilance]

I don’t support reparations. Never have.

[dukakis kerry the dream team]

This has created an atmosphere of fear - don't correct any misstatements or half-truths about Rudy, lest you be jumped.

This is such BS. I challenge you to link to a single instance of a poster zotted for posting a verifiably accurate statement.