Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

[nicollo]

That's ridiculous. You've used the words of someone who is entirely opposed to your point of view to advance your ideas. Be more careful:

he probably meant...

There's much, too much of that around here lately.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

-—Good catholics who practice birth control. Divorced ones that still go to church and give up sweets for Lent.-—

These aren’t particularly good behaviors. You just told me I have to be a person who commits mortal sin to be a republican.

Think about what you say before you say it.

[bannie]

:-) That guy can give a good one.

[EternalVigilance]

We're looking for religious right members that could...IF HE BECOMES THE NOMINEE...hold their noses and vote for him rather than allow a Clinton to run this nation again.

Who is "we"?

[michigander]

;-)

[Knitting A Conundrum]

I just saw the quote, it said what I thought was good. I don’t know him from a hole in the ground. Even a stopped clock is right once or twice a day.

[rbmillerjr]

ummm She’s not a Freeper.

[EternalVigilance]

:-)

[Gumlegs]

"When engaged in a war, particularly a war forced upon you by those who will not stop their acts of terrorism or aggression, peace cannot be the objective of your war. Peace is a secondary objective that will hopefully be produced as the byproduct of achieving that which must in such a war be your main objective, and that is to defeat the enemy."

Mr. Keyes is exactly right about that.

[sport]

I won’t

[mutley]

In the old days, you couldn’t call another FReeper a b@#@h and get away with it.

I don't know...I've been lurking here for quite a few years, and I have always viewed it as an often merciless place to post. Certainly not a place for the timid or thin skinned.

[commonguymd]

All this Keyes’s stuff is driving the DC posters crazy. Some are convinced that Keyes bought this site and that you are in charge while Keyes prepares to announce a run for the presidency.

;)

[Knitting A Conundrum]

I love it!

[Spyder]

In the old days, you couldn’t call another FReeper a b@#@h and get away with it.

Things have changed. I sensed a subtle shift during the Terri wars, but the minute I saw a post from someone claiming to be the owner calling someone "asswipe" it became totally clear what this place has turned into.

[processing please hold]

It's hard to describe the Shiavo threads and what some FReepers were saying about the situation. It was stomach turning.

That little ex probate judge, greer, wielded more power than our senators.

and we held a protest at Judge Greer's first award banquet for killing Terri.

Stuff that should never be forgotten:

It won't be forgotten by me.

Bless you for what you did.

[Sam Cree]

"Where's the sarcasm tag? Have you read what they've said and done? I know it's a huge thread but please read first. It's hugh and series."

Can you point me to one or two instances of that? I did read back in the thread 'til I got tired of it and found instances of people getting zotted who were arguing a lot more politely than the other side. Doesn't mean that everyone who left didn't deserve it, but I have yet to see any who were really trolls or "liberals."

[rbmillerjr]

“I missed his announcement that he’s running again or is this simply a fund raising drive?”

Nah the conspiracy nuts from over at Gulag Darwin were bringing Keyes up - apparently the “purple socks in gym class” kids thing he bought FR and is the puppetmaster.

[dukakis kerry the dream team]

Are you talking about her responses to the personal attacks she endured on this thread? Howlin fought fire with fire.

She always started it. It was her way of avoiding serious debate, which she would have lost.

[Chena]

ROFL!!! :)

[nicollo]

Just saying, not arguing.