Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

[floriduh voter]

just damn. who’s gonna do the hurricane threads? Will I have to rely on my weather radio?

[CindyDawg]

I just want to get on with getting a conservative president into the WH.

[Jrabbit]

I’ll leave your gloating and tattle-tale game alone. You won’t run me off of here.

Would it save you time if I list all the sites I belong to? I always use the same nic. Except the Leukemia one....there, I’m Sarahs Aunt. And it’s all about “getting a life”.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

She’s still here...still posting on some threads.

[bjs1779]

In all fairness, she was on Terri’s side. I mean NN.

[rbmillerjr]

“Be careful...not all here understand big words. Could be confusing.”

Condidering that most of your posts are one sentence long, you probably should be avoiding those type attacks. But since you started i’ll call the liberals supporting Rudy in the Primary what they are; unprincipled Party hacks who are so afraid that they cower under the fear in which they live. I have no excuses for what they did so they can go to all of these little mini sites to hang with their liberal friends. You people are not only cowards (especially the one’s that antiFreep on other sites) you always were fake conservatives.

If conservatives were polling high now, if the war was more popular...you limp wristed weasles would be on here using your “fly with the wind” style of politics and flaming the liberal side. You’re worse than liberals, you have no principle. You are Clintonian in your politics - just happen to have an R instead of a D in front of your name.

[EternalVigilance]

"This is what I call the American idea of freedom - a government of all the people, by all the people, for all the people; of course, a government of the principles of eternal justice - the unchanging law of God." - Theodore Parker

[commonguymd]

Sad to make it about money which it is not about. Trust me when I say that there are people willing to mitigate any financial distress to this site.

[dukakis kerry the dream team]

I’m not campaigning for him.

Yes you are. You just won't own up to it.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

The establishment of Civil and Religious Liberty was the Motive which induced me to the Field — the object is attained — and it now remains to be my earnest wish & prayer, that the Citizens of the United States could make a wise and virtuous use of the blessings placed before them.—George Washington

[EternalVigilance]

I thought he was dead?

;-)

[floriduh voter]

There are still TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO threads. I missed the vicious ones cuz I was outside the facility where they were killing her. I've never had the time to read what happened while myself and a multitude of freepers were trying to help Terri from 2003 through March 3, 2005 and we held a protest at Judge Greer's first award banquet for killing Terri. The Pasco Cty Bar Assn. gave him a clock for killing her. They ate prime rib. We were on the evening news.

Stuff that should never be forgotten:

http://www.judgegeorgegreer.com

[Skywarner]

If only 30-40 have left FR, then there shouldn’t be any financial distress. ;-)

[wagglebee]

NN has not been banned and was posting as of an hour ago and she IS NOT a Rudy Rooter.

[Reagan Man]

Another one from crazy old Sam Adams:

“If men of wisdom and knowledge... and true republican simplicity of manners... are chosen to fill the seats of government, we may expect that our affairs will rest on a solid and permanent foundation.”

[EternalVigilance]

"Indignation boils my blood at the thought of the heritage we are throwing away; at the thought that, with few exceptions, the fight for freedom is left to the poor, forlorn and defenseless, and to the few radicals and revolutionaries who would make use of liberty to destroy, rather than to maintain, American institutions. - Arthur Garfield Hays.

[EternalVigilance]

Good old Sam.

[commonguymd]

You can root for the aftermentioned, but I have little doubt to the contrary. FR, once established as a conservative site, was a force. It will be a force again, and with or without you and swarmy proclamations of demise, it will continue robustly.

I guarantee it.

[bjs1779]

There are still TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO threads. I missed the vicious ones cuz I was outside the facility where they were killing her. I've never had the time to read what happened while myself and a multitude of freepers were trying to help Terri from 2003 through March 3, 2005 and we held a protest at Judge Greer's first award banquet for killing Terri. The Pasco Cty Bar Assn. gave him a clock for killing her. They ate prime rib. We were on the evening news.

They were not all bad FV, they watered her flowers in the hospice when they were killing her.

[GodBlessUSA]

I'm not ignorant, nor a newbie. I should not have allowed myself to get involved in this discussion other than my first post here. I should have known better. Now I'm defending Giuliani and that was not my purpose of posting.

I know freepers post sources. Not all do when comments are made. You want a source, ok here's one. I'm not doing the research to document more. It's all available via web. I don't see everyone providing proof of source either. I'm not campaigning for Guiliani. I just won't discount any particular republican over a liberal winning. I won't insult any of our candidates at this point.

Giuliani

I read and varied sources. I would never read the NY Time as a reliable source or use Youtube as one either. So with all due respect, I also give him credit for the accomplishments he has performed.