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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Bigh4u2

12,181 posted on 04/27/2007 7:56:21 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

THESE are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods.

Tom Paine


12,182 posted on 04/27/2007 7:56:32 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: jedward

There ya go!

;0)


12,183 posted on 04/27/2007 7:57:31 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Bigh4u2

I’ve taken many a long short-cuts. Good lessons they were :)


12,184 posted on 04/27/2007 7:58:18 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Bigh4u2

:)


12,185 posted on 04/27/2007 7:58:37 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

“I’ve taken many a long short-cuts. Good lessons they were :)”

Sorta like fixing the muffler on your car by replacing the spark plugs first.

:0)


12,186 posted on 04/27/2007 8:00:35 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: JackRyanCIA

yeah, in the way that Pol Pot was a better choice than Mao


12,187 posted on 04/27/2007 8:01:06 AM PDT by MrEdd (Dogs think they're human, Cats think they're Gods.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

That Tom Paine quotation has always been one of my favorites and seems timeless in its ability to remain relevant.

“THESE are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods.

Tom Paine


12,188 posted on 04/27/2007 8:01:17 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("You tell them I'm comin...and hell's comin with me"!)
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To: Bigh4u2

Yes, and it’s also a good thing to see whether one is willing to dedicate the time. If a mere 12000+ post conservative related thread isn’t worth the time, then the strength to fight for conservatism needs a little workout IMO.


12,189 posted on 04/27/2007 8:03:23 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Maximus of Texas

“”Yeah it is. Go research and report back.””


So it never was about the issue or the question , it was simply to be annoying and confrontational, that is the type of thing that is so distracting and time consuming, and a little surprising considering the adult nature of this forum.


12,190 posted on 04/27/2007 8:05:29 AM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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To: jedward

“If a mere 12000+ post conservative related thread isn’t worth the time, then the strength to fight for conservatism needs a little workout IMO.”

That’s right.

What’s a few ‘hours’ between friends!

A pimple on time’s butt!

:0)


12,191 posted on 04/27/2007 8:06:56 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: ansel12

Yeah it was. It’s just that you are becoming annoying now.


12,192 posted on 04/27/2007 8:08:20 AM PDT by Maximus of Texas (On my signal, pull my finger.)
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To: rbmillerjr

And a simple one liner from Paine:

THOSE who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it.


12,193 posted on 04/27/2007 8:08:56 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: All

If anybody is keeping a list now, add Veronique aka Veronica.

The easiest way to get zotted has been to slam and distort conservative candidates to falsely make liberal Giuliani look better. Yet, the curiousity of the light is too alluring for some.


12,195 posted on 04/27/2007 8:10:46 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("You tell them I'm comin...and hell's comin with me"!)
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To: Bigh4u2

Exactly!


12,196 posted on 04/27/2007 8:11:28 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: rbmillerjr

“Veronica”

Though I only recognize the name from this thread, I remember that username flying into, bouncing around and getting tangled up in the wiring of the zapper a couple of nights ago. I was surprised she/he managed to make it well enough to fly off again.


12,197 posted on 04/27/2007 8:13:36 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: calcowgirl

Brads Gramma has great buns


12,198 posted on 04/27/2007 8:16:50 AM PDT by al baby (Hi mom)
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To: jedward

She flew to another thread Jim posted on Rudy.

I guess she just couldn’t resist the allure.


12,199 posted on 04/27/2007 8:17:11 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Bigh4u2

“I guess she just couldn’t resist the allure.”

Definately a phenomenon!


12,200 posted on 04/27/2007 8:18:59 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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