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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: stillonaroll

I agree.


11,121 posted on 04/26/2007 12:37:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The decks are cleared for battle - damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!)
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To: AngryJawa
WOW! Way over 11,000 posts on this thread...impressive! Too bad I skipped this in order to post about Sheryl Crow. Did I miss anything? 8^)

Not sure. I check in about every 1000 posts; think I've read only about half the thread, but it's been a doozy!

By the way, I think FR should start a fund to buy Sheryl Crow a one way ticket to Iran.

11,122 posted on 04/26/2007 12:38:31 PM PDT by stillonaroll (Rudy: pro-abortion, pro-gay, anti-gun)
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To: GOP_1900AD

That’s why we’re conservatives...we want to conserve those things that are right and true and good...and we know that garbage passing off as “good” in the pop culture doesn’t, as a rule, hold a candle to it.


11,123 posted on 04/26/2007 12:38:37 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
You got it!

Woo whoo! The crowing achievement of my freeperdom!

11,124 posted on 04/26/2007 12:40:33 PM PDT by stillonaroll (Rudy: pro-abortion, pro-gay, anti-gun)
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To: EternalVigilance

Bravo! Very inspirational! Take a bow.


11,125 posted on 04/26/2007 12:41:15 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

:-)


11,126 posted on 04/26/2007 12:43:11 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The decks are cleared for battle - damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!)
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To: stillonaroll

LOL...but hard to do! 5 strokes of singularity!


11,127 posted on 04/26/2007 12:43:22 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Nick Danger

“Here’s an idea. Let’s drive into the middle of the race and then beat our chests and ckaim victory while loudly shouting that those who left the starting gate are disqualified.”

Ok, I’ll expound upon it then. You see, there is no race. There is no competition. People are wanting to create competition where none should exist. You seem to insinuate that I’ve claimed victory. By starting at post 1, you’ll find my only statements of victory are surrounded by the terms the Rudy drops from the primaries.

I would presume you also refer to mine or other’s sign up dates being quite short of many here. I like to be part of a team, and when I think of tenure being something worth having, teacher unions are about the first thing that come to mind. I won’t go there.

I’ve watched the vast, and I mean vast majority of people who have left, to have done so either by request or by simply knowing where the line was drawn and them stomping on the line in spite. I want to help the conservative cause and movement and I stand firm on my actions thus far with this thread.


11,128 posted on 04/26/2007 12:43:27 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward
You sure are confrontational for someone who hasn’t been here two weeks yet. Are you a retread?
11,129 posted on 04/26/2007 12:44:52 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: sam_paine
Of all the banned/Opus'd FReepers, hers is the one I, personally, felt pain over.

I distributed her work to many who were blind to these truths, and they have seen the light.

Scary? You betcha'! The truth sometimes is.

As for her banishment, I know not why, nor is it my business. Therefore, I have no position to take, nor do I take one. That's between her and JimRob.

Mia T. aside, I see more FReepers posting now who's names I've not seen before. I can only assume they were lurking, afraid of the "gang" mentality that sometimes existed here when you didn't agree with, or word your posts to the liking of, a certain group of FReepers.

One thing I will state to all. I still consider myself a noob here. I look at a FReepers' sign on date, and place much respect on the "elders". Lately, a lot of that respect has been un-warranted and denigrated, by that FReeper, themself.

One or two, in particular, made comments on this thread that were so disgusting and perverse, especially the one about Jim personally, that had I been Jim, I would have been tempted to effect a real life zot, and not a virtual one.

Now, after this so-called "purge", I don't see that happening as much.

So, to the "stifling" of open discussion, I say we are having more, not less. And that's a good thing.

:O)

P
Run, FRED, run, and bring J.C. Watts with ya!

11,130 posted on 04/26/2007 12:45:28 PM PDT by papasmurf (FRed is like genuine leather. Rudy is genuine imitation naugahyde.)
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To: processing please hold

He’s OK...a friend of mine.


11,131 posted on 04/26/2007 12:45:57 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; jedward

I sure like him. :-)


11,132 posted on 04/26/2007 12:47:32 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The decks are cleared for battle - damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!)
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To: papasmurf

Good points.


11,133 posted on 04/26/2007 12:48:24 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
and will vote for whatever candidates (for all offices) show the least commitment to socialism.

Shades of 1950's "Better Red than Dead" lives on.

11,134 posted on 04/26/2007 12:48:38 PM PDT by itsahoot (The GOP did nothing about immigration, immigration did something about the GOP (As Predicted))
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To: BykrBayb; fatima

I wholeheartedly agree. Fatima is so delightful that I can easily see where she has been immune from the attacks of many of the liberals here. And she is also right about the fact that we shouldn’t take any special joy about any single person being banned.

However, it is still natural for us to feel a sense of relief that a group of people (many of whom have been openly supportive of abortion and euthanasia) are gone. I remember what was going on during the days of Terri Schiavo’s court-ordered murder, and many of these supposed conservatives showed nothing but cruelty toward those who were fighting to save her. After witnessing this, it became impossible for me to overlook the attitudes of certain FReepers.

I believe in the sanctity of all innocent life and my conscience will not permit me to pretend that beliefs that are totally contrary to that are acceptable. However, if my rhetoric is upsetting to people like fatima who believe the same things that I do, then I apologize from the bottom of my heart.


11,135 posted on 04/26/2007 12:50:41 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: EternalVigilance

Excellent!


11,136 posted on 04/26/2007 12:51:12 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: EternalVigilance; Knitting A Conundrum

Conservatism is in bloom, and that’s awsome!


11,137 posted on 04/26/2007 12:53:06 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: papasmurf

I assume you’re just speaking out in the open, and not attributing the quote about “stifle” to me.

MiaT had a mini-messianic complex, and her ALL CAPS SPAM POSTS with 47,000 links unrelated to any specific topic were just plain annoying.

She pretty much told people where they could get off if they didn’t appreciate her screeds.

Ironically, not long ago, I asked her to please put her name in the title page of her posts say they could be more easily avoided, and she took quite an attitude, as if JimRob would back her up on anything.

Good riddance, period!


11,138 posted on 04/26/2007 12:53:07 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Nick Danger
"Let's drive into the middle of the race and then beat our chests and ckaim victory while loudly shouting that those who left the starting gate are disqualified."

I'd say a lot of them are standing in the center lane of the interstate doing just that. It's going to get interesting when 18 wheels of truth comes flying down that lane.

11,139 posted on 04/26/2007 12:53:14 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Responsibility2nd

Thank you for the reply.


11,140 posted on 04/26/2007 12:54:18 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Waiting impatiently for a conservative party to rise from the ashes of the wimpy republican party.)
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