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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: SoCalPol

Yall could freep them and pass out Sining Rolls :’)


10,861 posted on 04/25/2007 11:52:00 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Brad's Gramma

Nitey nite. Sleep tight. Don’t let the bedbugs bite. We’ll leave the bug zapper on.


10,862 posted on 04/25/2007 11:53:05 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: CindyDawg

Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply that was the only reason that people were happy. I know that many just want to see the site stick to the message, and they’re pleased that it’s doing so. No offense intended.


10,863 posted on 04/25/2007 11:54:25 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: fatima

fatima, please re-think this. Just consider it as Tough Love. It is a pious act to loathe evil. It is not bad to feel happy at a victory over wrong.

And if some went over the top on this thread (I haven’t read the whole thing by any means), just overlook or tolerate what you don’t agree with.

I always am glad to see your name on FR. You add much to the atmosphere of Free Republic.


10,864 posted on 04/25/2007 11:55:01 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Only those who thirst for truth can know truth.)
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To: fatima; StarCMC

Fatima, if you leave FR or tell the mods to ban you then you’re doomed because I’ll FIRE you!!!!!


10,865 posted on 04/25/2007 11:55:44 PM PDT by El Gran Salseron (The World-Famous, popular DJ and FReeper Canteen Certified, Equal-Opportunity, Male-Chauvinist-Pig!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

My pleasure :)


10,866 posted on 04/25/2007 11:56:36 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: CindyDawg

Hope you wern’t in the bad weather area of TX the other day.


10,867 posted on 04/25/2007 11:56:51 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: SoCalPol

The thread seems to be slowing down for the evening.


10,868 posted on 04/26/2007 12:01:52 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: NinoFan; All

Yep, I’m heading to bed myself. Nite to all!


10,869 posted on 04/26/2007 12:03:10 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: NinoFan

— Eh, I don’t see how the “glee” portion makes any sense.

Aww, I’m just makin’ it up as I go, you know?

I agree that the situation here isn’t anywhere near as powerful as what some of these men have been through, but some of the strings of posturing and rough talk, combined with the obviously military nicknames, built an image in my mind of what it might be like.

- - - -

Long, boring days or weeks filled with petty tasks. Everyone is on everyone else’s nerves and nobody can do anything right. Mischief alternating with recrimination becomes a daily pattern.

Then the call comes in, and the mood changes quickly and everyone looking out for each other’s backs. Then, suddenly, the air is charged with adrenaline and testosterone and shouting and gunfire and smoke and dust.

Then it’s over, or is it? Uncertainty slowly gives way to consensus: all clear. Now it’s time to check on each other and see who is OK, who needs help, and who is beyond help.

Then relief sets in, and there is the telling and reliving events, congratulating of the successful, arguing over the credit—but nothing too serious, yet. There is also remembering the missing—a sometimes unkindly reminiscing.

Finally, a solemn, uneasy quiet settles in and lasts until boredom takes over again.

- - - -

Looking over the first 9,000 posts of this thread (a marathon session to be sure), I saw that pattern repeated several times.

FR is a serious thing to many of these folks, and seeing someone they’ve swapped barbs and wisecracks with get banned is...what? A little frightening? Yes, a little. So yes, there’s a little relief when it’s over. And yes, there’s more to it than that, but it’s in the mix, how much I don’t know.

Some of the old-timers on this thread seem to alternate between flirting with suspension or banishment by abusing their fellows, and then seeking reassurance from JR that they haven’t gone too far, and then making up, sort of, a little.

Of course there is a lot of brash cheerfulness to be rid of a jerk.

I wonder how many thesis have been written on the sociology of message boards?


10,870 posted on 04/26/2007 12:38:23 AM PDT by rbookward (When 900 years old you are, type as well you will not!)
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To: jedward

Do not go there. Are you serious or just a troll?


10,871 posted on 04/26/2007 12:45:37 AM PDT by gpapa
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To: rbookward
I wonder how many thesis have been written on the sociology of message boards?

Aren't you the guy who was talking to himself post after post earlier?

Just kidding...

lol...

Good night!

10,872 posted on 04/26/2007 12:50:47 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The decks are cleared for battle - damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!)
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To: BIGLOOK
...if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage

IF ???


10,873 posted on 04/26/2007 12:57:53 AM PDT by Verax
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To: rbookward

— I agree that the situation here isn’t anywhere near as powerful as what some of these men have been through, but some of the strings of posturing and rough talk, combined with the obviously military nicknames, built an image in my mind of what it might be like.

There was another image, too. An image of a TV commercial from the black and white ages...

- - - -

Exterior scene: Spanish castle, pennant flying, troops in armor with flags, swords and spears.

Troops: (shouting) El Cid! El Cid!

Interior scene: El Cid, half-dressed, hair stringy, hung-over, sits at a table covered with empty wine gobblets and chicken bones. He holds his head in his hands. An aide enters...

Aide: (loudly and confidently) El Cid! The men, they are ready!

Exterior scene: Troops waving flags and lifting swords and spears in time to their shouts...

Troops: (shouting) El Cid! El Cid! El Cid!

Interior scene: El Cid, green complexioned, stands swaying in the middle of the room still holding his head as squires try to fit armor to his elbows. An aide enters...

Aide: (impatient) El Cid! El Cid! The men, they are ready for battle!

Exterior scene: The troops are still raising their swords and spears in time to their shouts, but there are some discordant shouts, too. There is some pushing and shoving in the foreground.

Troops: El Cid! (Hey!) El Cid! (Watch it!) El Cid! (No, YOU watch it!)

Interior: El Cid stands in the middle of the room wearing steel pants, but still holding his head while squires try to fit armor to his elbows. An aid enters...

Aide: (whining) El Cid! El Cid! The men, they are fighting each other!

Exterior scene: Troops in full combat with them selves.

Troops: Yeeeaaah! Aieee! Grunt!

Voice-over: Alka-Seltzer—relief is on the way!

- - - -

Yeah. Saw that repeated during the first 9,000 posts, too.


10,874 posted on 04/26/2007 1:11:38 AM PDT by rbookward (When 900 years old you are, type as well you will not!)
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To: EternalVigilance

— Aren’t you the guy who was talking to himself post after post earlier?

Uh, that would be a psychology thesis. I’m pretty sure I could provide enough material to take a student from BS to PhD.

I’m an undiscovered treasure house. (Or was than an outhouse? No matter...)


10,875 posted on 04/26/2007 1:32:40 AM PDT by rbookward (When 900 years old you are, type as well you will not!)
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To: Crawdad
No, but getting pregnant before marriage is sick and sinful. I'm not so sure Ronald Reagan is in heaven after having read that fact.

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:

Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

I guess it depends on whether he had faith.

10,876 posted on 04/26/2007 1:39:58 AM PDT by trussell
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To: Iwo Jima
Is that OK by you? Cause if you're not down for the struggle, we need to know right here and now.

Hey, I'm all for it... :)

10,877 posted on 04/26/2007 2:57:45 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus CINO-RINO GRAZIE NO)
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To: BykrBayb; Knitting A Conundrum

"We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest."

;-)

8mm

10,878 posted on 04/26/2007 3:18:15 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: rbmillerjr
It's "You tell them I'm comin...and hell's comin with me"!

I love that movie.

10,879 posted on 04/26/2007 3:18:32 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot

Thanks. change made.

Val Kilmer’s best movie imo. One of Kurt Russell’s best too.


10,880 posted on 04/26/2007 3:35:04 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("You tell them I'm comin...and hell's comin with me"!)
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