Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

[CindyDawg]

Well if the 98’s and 99’s are lurking....00’s rule now:’)

[Brad’s Gramma]

I DID!!! Go feeger!!!

Heck, the week PRIOR to that, the whole (WHY must it be a new cup?) cup of Starbucks went onto a chair. I mean ONTO the chair.

We wheeled that outside, turned it upside down...

Good grief....

[markomalley]

What part of “Rudy is not a conservative” are you failing to understand?

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

Did You Hear “TRICK OR TREAT”??...;0)

[T'wit]

Thank you! Shall I try out a few others? :-) Here’s one I specially like. It is dripping with wisdom.

[sonic109]

Each state pretty much has it’s own gun laws now..They will never take away peoples rights to firearms ..Im not worried about it . Im worried about getting nuked which will happen if we don’t have someone who can actually beat Klinton.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

Gun laws matter. Friend of mine is very upset about some things being talked about in Pennsylvania that would affect black powder guns.

[rbmillerjr]

“Snidely, you can be assured I know exactly what my thoughts and beliefs are and have no problem expressing them. Any resemblence between them and your obscene caricatures is strictly random. Anyone can see from my extensive posting that I am a 100% patriotic American and supports its Constitution totally.

What would be gutless is to surrender to little thugs like you and confess to Thought Crimes which never existed.”

Well, welcome back and I’d just like to say I love you too.
Would you hold me?

I’d ask you to explain your own anti Freeper and anti Conservative words from earlier today, but I’ve done that 3 times with no response from you.

[Beagle8U]

“I think Rudy is VERY tough on terrorism and thats the only issue I’m really concerned with right now.He can win and thats important”

Name one thing Rooty has ever done to prevent terrorism.

Name one thing that Rooty has ever done to fight terrorism.

List anything that qualifies him on international foreign policy.

How can any abortionist, gun grabbing, liberal win on a Republican ticket?

[dukakis kerry the dream team]

Recently departed...

Awesome calcowgirl, thanks!

Now, if you don't mind, would you put them in chronological order, along with their join date and a short description of their zottation? :-)

[Kevmo]

Thanks for clearing that up.

[jedward]

Well, only 7rs to go then.(s) I will pray for patience (lol), humbleness and gratitude for the site, actually.

[CharlesWayneCT]

If your child and a guest get into a fight where both are guilty, you don’t kick them both out of the house, you kick the guest out, and then punish your child.

Or you don’t punish your kid, even though you should. but even though I don’t appreciate this thread, I understand that if two sides are misbehaving, the side pushing ideas in opposition to the site mission statement are going.

I don’t expect to see the site’s ALLIES thrown out in that fight. It may not be “fair”, but it is rational.

I think I’ll say one more thing a little later, and then if I’m not banned I’ll step out :-)

[vox_freedom]

...and yeah there is that whole Constitution thing too lol.

Yeah, that pesky Constitution thing! If only Barbara Mikulski could....

mikulski sponsored legislative issues 108th congress

[jedward]

How do you say it...at 20,000dB ? (lol)

[CindyDawg]

Newbie:’)

[Bigh4u2]

“They will never take away peoples rights to firearms .”

Is that why the Supreme Court intervened in the D.C.’s gun rights law?

You’re kidding yourself if you think a liberal controlled government won’t take away your firearms.

And yes. Rudy IS a liberal.

“Im worried about getting nuked which will happen if we don’t have someone who can actually beat Klinton.”

You have a better chance of being killed by a car then you do of being nuked from a terrorist.

And you’re just a little premature in thinking Rudy is the only one that can be Clinton.

We haven’t even hit the PRIMARIES yet!

[jwalsh07]

Hope they return.

Me too and more as well. Big falling out here but I must say I enjoyed debating a lot of the folks that have been casualties of Rudymania. Even worse than the old Libertarian/Socon dustups. This too shall pass...

I hope.

[merry10]

Even though we are not talking about the swiftboating of John Kerry, I still feel as though it’s an ugly, ugly tactic and the people I’ve met who know Duncan Hunter, for example, would not appreciate this. To answer your question, - I think there were parts of each party telling the truth. People take their perceptions and mold them into their versions of the truth. Back then, I bought the book.

I think that President Bush would have won anyway. He was by far the better (conservative) candidate, whose father has heaped praise on Rudy, and I’m glad he won.

[Iwo Jima]

Oh, I read that, and I can't begin to approach the level of a Supo. No, my anti-opus was going to be more on the lines of "I'm still here, I'm not going away, deal with it."

But if I only had a publicity agent, I might could wring 300 words out of it and get it published somewhere.