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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: CharlesWayneCT

“Meanwhile, the pro-gun crowd has to show up and PICKET and PROTEST whenever Rudy comes to town, just to show that we still support gun rights. I don’t want a candidate I have to picket before I vote for him.”

Neither do I.


1,021 posted on 04/21/2007 10:53:21 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Peach; Jim Robinson
“Rudy’s frontrunner status”

The only front-runner status Rudy has is his name recognition combined with people not being familiar with his positions yet.

1,022 posted on 04/21/2007 10:54:08 PM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: Rex Anderson

Facts are facts.


1,023 posted on 04/21/2007 10:54:12 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I can see the bumper sticker now “I Picketed Rudy Before I Vote for Him.”


1,024 posted on 04/21/2007 10:55:12 PM PDT by politicalwit (Family values don't stop at the border...but Federal laws do.)
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To: Spiff

“I expect liberals to trash Reagan. I expect liberals to attack people who support conservative candidates. But this is Free Republic and we’re supposed to be conservatives. These types of attacks on conservatives should not be tolerated here. If they want to attack conservatives, they can go do it at their own stupid little site that they created to do just that. But it shouldn’t see the light of day here.”

Amen!


1,025 posted on 04/21/2007 10:55:12 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Maybe Im not here anymore ...


1,026 posted on 04/21/2007 10:55:47 PM PDT by woofie
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To: narses
You lied. Liberal.

That's choice coming from a Hillary Clinton fan. LOL.
1,027 posted on 04/21/2007 10:55:58 PM PDT by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: Peach

“without mentioning his outstanding fiscal conservative positions and tax cutting policies and his strength in terms of national security and hating the Arab jihadists.”

His fiscal conservative positions?

Like public funding of abortion, social services for illegals, opening a gay & lesbian health clinic etc?

His tax cutting policies? Like when he opposed eliminating the commuter tax, opposed pataki’s proposed 25% tax cut, and dismissed the flat tax?

What’s his strength in national security? What’s his experience you can point to in foreign policy or military experience? Does his kicking out the squeegee men count as experience?

So now we are left with “hating the Arab jihadists.” Wow, that’s a real qualification!


1,028 posted on 04/21/2007 10:56:31 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: Peach

“Thankfully not in the eyes of the conservatives I know.”

The conservatives you know are probably not conservatives, they’re liberals like you. Sitting at a table of Republicans at the local GOP Club doesn’t make your opinion conservative. You keep saying you see natsec as more important, but it certainly appears that you simply don’t care (at all) about social issues...and honestly, that’s fine Peach, but that makes you a Republican not a conservative.


1,029 posted on 04/21/2007 10:56:42 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: politicalwit

““I Picketed Rudy Before I Vote for Him.””

ROTFLOL!


1,030 posted on 04/21/2007 10:57:10 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Registered

Facts are your friend. You failed the test. Sad. You need help.


1,031 posted on 04/21/2007 10:57:45 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Peach
You’ve repeatedly posted that Rudy is a gun grabbing, abortionist loving, gay marriage supporting liberal, without mentioning his outstanding fiscal conservative positions and tax cutting policies and his strength in terms of national security

National security?

If you're so concerned with national security, why would you support someone that has created a sanctuary city for people that have entered this country illegally?

1,032 posted on 04/21/2007 10:57:54 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Beagle8U; Blackirish
From a Business Week interview, Rudy Giuliani on Iraq, Taxes, Mistakes:

You recently picked up Steve Forbes, who is a flat-tax advocate, as an adviser. Do you also support a flat tax?

Rudy: I support simplifying the tax code. I think of the flat tax as theoretically a very good solution—and probably what we should have done when we first started the income tax. These days it would be unrealistic to go all the way to a flat tax. But you can use it as a guide to figure out how you're going to simplify taxes.

Thanks for noting it Beagle8U, this was a case where I had fallen for the pro-rudy postings and thought Rudy had endorsed the flat tax. I don't know why I keep making that mistake.

1,033 posted on 04/21/2007 10:58:00 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: narses
If the baby-killer wins, those of us who are conservative bolt. If a conservative wins, those who want babies dead bolt.

If you actually believe that, you are certifiable.

1,034 posted on 04/21/2007 10:58:05 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: Pan_Yan

Great Post.


1,035 posted on 04/21/2007 10:58:08 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die than to live as a slave.)
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To: rbmillerjr; Peach
and honestly, that’s fine Peach, but that makes you a Republican not a conservative.

And it's going to be Republicans that elect the next president.

1,036 posted on 04/21/2007 10:58:34 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: joesbucks

Last I heard, that Sally Hemmings stuff was unsubstantiated garbage.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_19_17/ai_75021627

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b1e31964372.htm


1,037 posted on 04/21/2007 10:58:45 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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To: Pan_Yan

No, seems like everyone here is just OK with bannings instead of constructive conversation.

You want to make the tent smaller, then don’t be outraged when the bigger tent wins and runs the policies of this nation next time.


1,038 posted on 04/21/2007 10:58:53 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Never Let a Fundie Near a Textbook. Teach Evolution!)
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To: veronica

Poppy Bush introduced Bill Clinton at events as well. Says something about something? no, unless you believe in equivalence.


1,039 posted on 04/21/2007 10:58:59 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Rex Anderson

Nope. Facts trump emotions. Those who support infanticide will vote Democrap if a conservative wins.


1,040 posted on 04/21/2007 10:59:33 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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