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1 posted on 04/12/2007 5:52:56 PM PDT by Navydog
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To: Navydog

I would like to see any business owner/gun owner threaten to shut down their business and move out of state if this was to pass.


2 posted on 04/12/2007 5:57:14 PM PDT by A1 Southern Man (Fred Thompson , the one who can win.)
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...fingerprints, photograph, Social Security number and a host of other personal information...

That's all the same stuff required of a real estate licensee in New Jersey. A thorough background check keeps most criminals out of the business.

I assume the goal is to keep them (criminals) from legally carrying firearms in this case.

3 posted on 04/12/2007 6:00:32 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TAGLINE virus has been CURED!.)
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To: Navydog
The rules I mentioned so far are only for those whose registration applications are approved. If your registration application is rejected for any reason, and your appeal is denied, you have three days to turn over all your guns to the state police.

So, if the government screws up and denies your application because of its mistake, you lose your guns. There's nothing in the bill addressing what happens to seized guns or when, if ever, you can get them back.

5 posted on 04/12/2007 6:09:04 PM PDT by digger48
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Nice article. If I recall correctly from reading the bill, not only do you have 48 hours to turn your guns in if you are turned down, even if successful you only have 48 hours to notify the police of any change in your application information. The application requires both your home address/phone number and your work address/phone number, so if you change jobs, or get laid off, you have 48 hours to notify the PA State Police. They can also ask for any other information the PSP consider necessary. Maybe they'll ask for cell-phone, so if you change that number you have 48 hours to notify the police. Maybe they'll ask for your next-of-kin, so if you're unfortunate enough to lose a spouse or parent you may have to notify the PSP before they're even in the grave.

Of course, all this only applies if you are law-abiding enough to actually register. Real criminals won't be impacted at all. Maybe those Philly and Pitt representatives really do think ordinary people are the criminals. Maybe they think real criminals are heroes for defying the 'estalishment'...

7 posted on 04/12/2007 6:15:51 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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The Second Amendment is dead, it died a long time ago, and the sooner you all recognize that fact the better. The question is: What will you do?
8 posted on 04/12/2007 6:17:04 PM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters!)
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To: Navydog
If someone told you he had been forced to provide the Pennsylvania State Police with their fingerprints, photograph, Social Security number and a host of other personal information

Should be required of all politicians as well as psychological examination.

9 posted on 04/12/2007 6:20:33 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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Pennsylvanians should look at who wants to remove their right to self protect. I mean, that is their ultimate goal.

she wants to remove your right to self protect

he wants to remove your right to self protect

he wants to remove your right to self protect

she wants to remove your right to self protect

Lest we forget, he wants to remove your right to self protect

12 posted on 04/12/2007 6:31:49 PM PDT by takenoprisoner
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"Your papers please."

14 posted on 04/12/2007 6:51:41 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: Navydog

So is Pennsylvania officially now a liberal hell hole like California? Or is it salvageable?


15 posted on 04/12/2007 6:52:16 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Navydog

I’m a PA boy and they ain’t taking my guns.


16 posted on 04/12/2007 7:00:08 PM PDT by steel_resolve (They hate us because they do not rule us)
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To: Navydog

“You can bet your bottom dollar that criminals will not register their guns.”

Nor will I.


22 posted on 04/12/2007 7:49:33 PM PDT by Firefigher NC
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To: Navydog
I’m sorry, but this is the state whose voters:

Fired Rick Santorum

Fired Curt Weldon

Kept Ed Rendel at the public trough

Told Lynn Swann to shove it

Elected Arlen Specter

Voted for Kerry; rejected Bush

Folks, you get the government you deserve. The people of Pennsylvania will have to find out the hard way; there is no freedom in the democrat party.

24 posted on 04/12/2007 8:04:55 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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IOW, pennsylvania gun owners would be treated like Michigan handgun owners have been treated for decades...


25 posted on 04/12/2007 8:07:18 PM PDT by Redbob
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To: Navydog

All of the left’s ideas are getting SO old.

Criminals and gang-bangers prey on others and each other with guns - the pussy left isn’t tough enough to stop them so their solution is to punish the law-abiding instead.


28 posted on 04/12/2007 8:15:58 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Today's question - Are Japan, China, and India emulating islam or the EEE-VIL West?)
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To: Navydog

The Second Amendment could not be clearer.

Tell the gun grabbers, just as clearly, “No.”

If ever there was a time to use the Second Amendment for it’s intended purpose, the ability to protect all of your rights, the time is right now.

If the tree of Liberty is due for some Patriot and/or Tyrant blood, so be it.


32 posted on 04/12/2007 10:23:55 PM PDT by jeffers
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