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Registry would treat gun owners like criminals
The Morning Call ^ | April 10, 2007 | Christian Berg

Posted on 04/12/2007 5:52:52 PM PDT by Navydog

If someone told you he had been forced to provide the Pennsylvania State Police with their fingerprints, photograph, Social Security number and a host of other personal information, you'd probably assume they were arrested and charged with a crime.

Well, that kind of police ''booking'' process could be in store for Pennsylvania's roughly 3 million firearms owners if gun-control advocates in Harrisburg have their way.

(Excerpt) Read more at mcall.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guns
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To: Kay Ludlow
Maybe those Philly and Pitt representatives really do think ordinary people are the criminals. Maybe they think real criminals are heroes for defying the 'estalishment'...

They are Marxists and they see criminals as class allies in the fight against the social structure. A person who owns a gun to protect himself is considered a class enemy.

21 posted on 04/12/2007 7:45:24 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Navydog

“You can bet your bottom dollar that criminals will not register their guns.”

Nor will I.


22 posted on 04/12/2007 7:49:33 PM PDT by Firefigher NC
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To: A1 Southern Man

So the heck would I !!


23 posted on 04/12/2007 7:50:23 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Navydog
I’m sorry, but this is the state whose voters:

Fired Rick Santorum

Fired Curt Weldon

Kept Ed Rendel at the public trough

Told Lynn Swann to shove it

Elected Arlen Specter

Voted for Kerry; rejected Bush

Folks, you get the government you deserve. The people of Pennsylvania will have to find out the hard way; there is no freedom in the democrat party.

24 posted on 04/12/2007 8:04:55 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Navydog

IOW, pennsylvania gun owners would be treated like Michigan handgun owners have been treated for decades...


25 posted on 04/12/2007 8:07:18 PM PDT by Redbob
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To: steel_resolve
"I’m a PA boy and they ain’t taking my guns."

Until your local Gestapo shows up on your doorstep, and you're all "YEssir," and "Nosir," and "Right away Sir!"

26 posted on 04/12/2007 8:11:14 PM PDT by Redbob
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To: Clint Williams

I believe it’s long past time to “vote from the roof tops”.


27 posted on 04/12/2007 8:15:29 PM PDT by Boiling point (The Indians had a bad immigration policy and look what happened to them!)
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To: Navydog

All of the left’s ideas are getting SO old.

Criminals and gang-bangers prey on others and each other with guns - the pussy left isn’t tough enough to stop them so their solution is to punish the law-abiding instead.


28 posted on 04/12/2007 8:15:58 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Today's question - Are Japan, China, and India emulating islam or the EEE-VIL West?)
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To: Wilhelm Tell
They are Marxists and they see criminals as class allies in the fight against the social structure. A person who owns a gun to protect himself is considered a class enemy.

I wonder why more people don't realize that.

29 posted on 04/12/2007 9:01:41 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: A1 Southern Man
I would like to see any business owner/gun owner threaten to shut down their business and move out of state if this was to pass.

I intend to do just that, and I will follow through on it--just as I no longer live in New York state. I refused to return despite a job offering quite a substantial jump in salary, and I am prepared to leave PA if they pass this.

30 posted on 04/12/2007 9:10:52 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Clint Williams

Submit like we have to everything else they throw at us.


31 posted on 04/12/2007 10:06:28 PM PDT by takenoprisoner
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To: Navydog

The Second Amendment could not be clearer.

Tell the gun grabbers, just as clearly, “No.”

If ever there was a time to use the Second Amendment for it’s intended purpose, the ability to protect all of your rights, the time is right now.

If the tree of Liberty is due for some Patriot and/or Tyrant blood, so be it.


32 posted on 04/12/2007 10:23:55 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: BearWash
Boy, you left yourself open on that one.

No, since I'm not one of the offenders, I don't feel "open" at all. We want the bad ones out.

But I am puzzled why you would think that the "bubble burst" (which in most of the country is simply a slowdown to a more normal pace than the past five years) is caused by criminal acts by real estate practitioners.

The ton of disclosures required with each sale and loan origination plainly state the "what ifs" to the consumer. Some sign without reading; others gamble and lose. Most read and understand, take on what they can handle, and do just fine.

You'll hear that the foreclosure rate on subprime loans has doubled in the past year, and it has. What you won't hear is that it is still substantially under 1%.

33 posted on 04/13/2007 6:40:20 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TAGLINE virus has been CURED!.)
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To: JimRed

Note: sorry, I’m not trying to hijack a 2nd amendment thread over to real estate!


34 posted on 04/13/2007 6:44:04 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TAGLINE virus has been CURED!.)
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To: Hazcat

When Hungary was over run, the first place the intruders went was to the police stations to get the lists of gun ownership. Those houses were raided first and hard.


35 posted on 04/13/2007 7:21:21 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: JimRed
Although in NJ (ironically) we are not actually required to register the weapons, only ourselves and our privilege to purchase them.

This sounds a great deal like the "national" gun registry which received support from Rudy Giuliani.

36 posted on 04/13/2007 7:26:23 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: JimRed
Although in NJ (ironically) we are not actually required to register the weapons, only ourselves and our privilege to purchase them.

This sounds a great deal like the "national" gun registry which received support from Rudy Giuliani.

37 posted on 04/13/2007 7:26:26 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: tcostell; admin

Please excuse the “double Tap”


38 posted on 04/13/2007 7:27:04 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: A1 Southern Man
#I assume the goal is to keep them (criminals) from legally carrying firearms in this case.”

It is already against the law for criminals to have guns. And this is not about carrying guns anyway. This is just a way to fleece law abiding citizens out of more money. Every politician who signed on to this should be recalled.

I agree, to a point. And to clarify, I was not defending the registration process, merely stating my take on their "reasoning".

A point of sale background check is OK with me if permanent records are not kept that'll come back to bite me when the RATS take over.

39 posted on 04/13/2007 4:30:41 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TAGLINE virus has been CURED!.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Folks, you get the government you deserve. The people of Pennsylvania will have to find out the hard way; there is no freedom in the democrat party.

Right. It's too bad our President and his Attorney General didn't go after voter fraud with any enthusiasm - maybe the results would have been different in some of those races...

40 posted on 04/14/2007 6:31:52 AM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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