I don't think they go to hell. Probably a communal graveyard, like the mainstream Republican elephants.
Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons
Wedge Issues Posted by: “Common Tator” in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002
The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.
Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.
Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.
There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.
When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.
Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.
But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.
This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.
When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.
Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.
If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties’ core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.
To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.
Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.
Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.
If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.
Nope, sorry, it was deleted for her language in it. Sorry, you are wrong.
Words and terms have specific meanings; meaning set in stone and no, you may NOT purloin any word and phrase and then make up your own definition for it.
Your victimhood gets rather old.
Apparently you aren't aware (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt) that:
1) Jim has called those of us who support Rudy treasonous. We've responded in kind.
2) Jim last night was throwing around the most heated rhetoric last night that any right thinking person should disassociate himself with.
3) If you find it all so tiring, instead of suggesting we leave, why don't you stop reading for a while.
4) And if Jim wants us gone, he can ban us. It's that simple.
5) I'm kind of sick and tired of posts like yours that basically tell us we're all to march in lockstep with YOUR views and YOUR social positions.
Good Republicans, staunch Republicans like Sen. Brownback and Rep. Sessions, Ted Olson, Michael Reagan, Newt Gingrich, Bill Simon, Pat Robertson have either said they think Rudy would be a good president, or they've endorsed him or said they think he should be supported.
Well, I got my answer: your choice is failure in 2008, right?
FGS, that rant is just boilerplate and solves nor answers anything.
Actually, some are sent to the offender via "Freep Mail" saying "Knock it off!" (I know because well, I got one just once...but it was on a male-bashing FR feminazi thread, and I avoid those now LIKE THE PLAGUE! ;>)
Well, Im sorry I hit abuse ...I thought it was way out of line.
This whole thread leans sharply toward the emotional arena
Even though the subject matter is X-rated, FR is not.
Damn, y'all are on to me.
I don't think they go to hell. Probably a communal graveyard, like the mainstream Republican elephants.
LOL.......no kidding!
BS
Once I got one that said not to pick on EV.
It was probably EV!
I've been on the phone, and lost track of the thread, but I'm pretty sure I saw a post where one of them admitted "The Grifter" means JR. Hmm...
I'll check back later, and see how the thread's going.
Doubtful.
This will only continue to get uglier.
Giuliani will lose (I believe) based on his positions, but the level of discourse around here has deteriorated severely...
And the first primaries are still almost a year away.
If you bothered to read your pings, I already explained it to you, and proven to you your confused and wrong.
I didn't know that. I wonder how they decide who will be publically disciplined and who will be given a private slap on the wrist. My best guess is probably the right one. LOL ;)
Compromising within the base simply means that we agree to disagree on some relevant issue, but will come together for the general, for the good of the party and the welfare of the country.
The fact is, there are not enough of us otherwise and no good will be done, and the welfare of the country will be at risk with democrats controlling.
It is common sense, and the very definition of politics that guide politics, not calling every issue a principle and refusing to do anything but fight and destroy our party from within.
Politics is, and has alway meant "the art of compromise" It is what it is, and cannot be something else. We have definitions for those things as well, and they are something that we do not approve of. They being, Aristocracy, Autocracy, Theocracy, and a few others like Dictatorships.
The truth is, that without a coalition of the differing views in the Conservative family of belief's, we cannot win. We will not win.
No. One or more firemen were gay.
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