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How Will Illegal Immigration End? (Victor Davis Hanson)
RealClearPolitics ^ | January 25, 2007 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 01/25/2007 10:01:40 AM PST by EveningStar

We hear all sorts of solutions for ending illegal immigration. Build a wall! Beef up border security! Fine employers, and create a massive guest-worker program. Or America could insist on tamper-proof identification cards, or detention, deportation or even amnesty for some illegal aliens -- or all of these measures somehow combined.

But ultimately the solution lies in the hope that a Tijuana might become as prosperous as a San Diego -- now a few miles away but a world apart...

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; economy; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; mexico; vdh; victordavishanson
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To: stuartcr

It will be decreased temporarily when we declare all Mexicans and Central Americans to be American Citizens. That would be the ultimate "amnesty."


81 posted on 01/25/2007 11:59:58 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Dead Corpse
We ain't dead yet. Don't give up the fight before we get started.

I hear you. I'm not trying to come across as defeatist. I'm just looking at our problem like a chess match. Our position is vulnerable. Thus far we've been unable to come up with an effective counter to a strategy that will beat us, given sufficient time. I just hope more people wake up before we've been worn down too far.

82 posted on 01/25/2007 12:00:00 PM PST by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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To: Steel Wolf
It is really going to be ironic, if we win the day in Iraq and lose the nation to the illegals here at home. But this is the road our leadership is decided on and this travesty is coming from both sides of the isle.
83 posted on 01/25/2007 12:06:02 PM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: Dead Corpse

Yup. By replacing the Mexican "leadership" with our checks and balances it would greatly aid in eliminating the inherent graft and corruption throughout Mexican society.

Unfortunately most of the Mexicans I know favor a socialist solution to their perenial problems. Y'know: new boss, same as the last.



84 posted on 01/25/2007 12:15:50 PM PST by BJClinton (Forget the fence, annex Mexico.)
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To: Thombo2

WE should prefer policies that send Americanized Mexicans home to Mexico over the path to citizenship idea. Heck, I would even pay them. Find out what it costs to deport one and offer them half the amount to leave.


85 posted on 01/25/2007 12:24:03 PM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: BJClinton
One of the guys we've got hired on as a contractor is a legal immigrant with a ton of family still in Mexico. They are about as disgusted with the corruption down there as we are with our own politicians.

They seem to be stuck in the same position we are. They want the corruption gone, but no matter how they vote, they seem to end up with the same kind of politician in office regardless.

This isn't a failure of the people, it's a failure of the system. Ours works marginally better than theirs and thier adoption of our Constitution might just serve to wake up people here about what it really means.

Freedom is worth it, despite the bad press it gets from the socialist media.

86 posted on 01/25/2007 12:28:34 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: Steel Wolf

It's only vulnerable because we haven't figured out a decent defense yet. Once the pawns start deciding things on their own, then maybe the rest of us will jump in and help.


87 posted on 01/25/2007 12:29:40 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: EveningStar
To answer the headline's question: Mexico will forever after be known as Echo Canyon.
88 posted on 01/25/2007 12:31:29 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

"Valencia, California."


Just think how many illegals that bomb took out. "Sorry guys, no more oranges, you're all laid off."


89 posted on 01/25/2007 1:46:08 PM PST by wolfcreek (Please Lord, May I be, one who sees what's in front of me.)
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To: Argus
Cuando todos hablamos espanol.
90 posted on 01/25/2007 1:51:09 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (Investigate Samoagate! What doesn't Pelosi know, and why doesn't she know it?)
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To: Shots
Why spend millions of dollars on crap that only disperses your enemies? Spend far less on weapons and ammo that kills them. Problem solved, whether in Baghdad, Anbar, or Sierra Vista.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

91 posted on 01/25/2007 2:00:10 PM PST by wku man (Claire Wolfe's "awkward time" is quickly coming to an end!)
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To: taxed2death

Actually it will also end when we catch up with Mexico....
The whole border issue makes me think of diffusion, things go from an area of high concentration to an area of low concentration, and eventually you have equlibrium.
susie


92 posted on 01/25/2007 2:57:42 PM PST by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Muchas gracias.


93 posted on 01/25/2007 3:03:54 PM PST by Argus
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To: EveningStar

In the middle of an ongoing political debate, it's not acting like a Victor to change the subject.


94 posted on 01/25/2007 4:32:53 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: stuartcr

Give a tax incentive to every company that has business in China and Venezuela. They move their companies to Mexico and the illegals go home.

Cures to problems right there. Final problem is getting someone to earn 5 bucks an hour cleaning hotel rooms, washing dishes and picking fruit.


95 posted on 01/25/2007 5:09:19 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The Clintons: A Malignant Malfeasance of the Most Morbid)
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To: EveningStar
Richard Lamm, the former Governor of Colorado, has a bone-chilling description of how the United States will end. This is a MUST read!!
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/lamm.asp
96 posted on 01/25/2007 5:23:01 PM PST by NorseWood
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To: EveningStar; neverdem; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; ...


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97 posted on 01/26/2007 4:56:34 AM PST by Tolik
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To: afnamvet; neverdem

Thanks for the ping


98 posted on 01/26/2007 4:57:44 AM PST by Tolik
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To: VU4G10

I agree. And in addition, impose heavy fines on businesses that hire illegal aliens, no education or medical benefits for illegal aliens...and they will deport themselves.


99 posted on 01/26/2007 5:16:00 AM PST by Hornet19 (Be Politically Erect.)
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To: EveningStar

when your next door neighbors are career criminals,
the only thing you can do is secure your property and protect yourself by any means necessary from intruders.

Next case...

if Bush had secured the borders, started deporting the illegals, fined employers who hire illegals and enforced the immigration laws five years ago we wouldn't be in the mess we're in today.


100 posted on 01/26/2007 5:35:52 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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