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Reported on FOX News a little ago. Illigals have killed 45,000 US citizens since 9/11
Fox News | Jan 24, 2007 | Fox Neil Cabuto

Posted on 01/24/2007 3:00:13 PM PST by stockpirate

There were two woman on the show being interviwed and I only caught a piece of it.

But the main part was that since 9/11 over 45,000 US citizens have been killed by illigal aliens in the US.

Does anyone know more about this as I am very interested. They said the numbers came from a US Congressman or Senator.

also one person was with the boarder militia group, so there were three people.


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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bogus; borders; bushbotsindenial; crimaliens; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; lies; quagmire; statistics; wot
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Nah, it's pretty impossible. For example, around here in Maryland, while there is a good sized and growing population of Central Americans who are almost all illegal, the overwhelming majority of the murders are committed by blacks.


21 posted on 01/24/2007 3:10:19 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: stockpirate

They must be including ALL manner of deaths.

This would make sense if you include illegals causing car accidents.


22 posted on 01/24/2007 3:10:30 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: stockpirate

I believe the actual number is closer to 4,500. But definitely more than were killed on 9-11. Over half were by drunk drivers, the others by homicide.


23 posted on 01/24/2007 3:11:03 PM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: stockpirate

Nowhere in that article does his cite his sources or "show his math."


24 posted on 01/24/2007 3:11:08 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: longtermmemmory

I don't think even if you somehow included every fatal car accident where an illegal was even one of the parties in the accident, even if they weren't charged with anything, you could possibly get to that number.


25 posted on 01/24/2007 3:12:17 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: stockpirate

Yeah, but we can buy our lettuce cheap.


26 posted on 01/24/2007 3:12:22 PM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: stockpirate

Well, maybe 45,000 is a large number. But in my book ONE AMERICAN KILLED BY AN ILLEGAL IS ONE TOO DAMNED MANY!!! CLOSE DOWN THE FREAKING BORDERS BUSH!!!


27 posted on 01/24/2007 3:12:26 PM PST by RetiredArmy (Marxis-Dimocrats stand for everything I hate and wish to see destroyed, including them!)
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To: Strategerist

'Nowhere in that article does his cite his sources or "show his math."'

These days that means it was made up, IMO.


28 posted on 01/24/2007 3:12:47 PM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: Strategerist
Nowhere in that article does his cite his sources or "show his math."

Of course not, because he probably pulled it out of ..... the air.

29 posted on 01/24/2007 3:12:48 PM PST by mgstarr
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
"killed", not murdered.....including driving related deaths as well as some other categories might easily reach that number

That's the most likely explanation. In any case those deaths wouldn't happen if those people weren't here.
30 posted on 01/24/2007 3:12:50 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: cripplecreek
THIS IS HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
31 posted on 01/24/2007 3:25:08 PM PST by Republic (Mark Levin has genuine passion for our nation!)
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To: mgstarr

I hear we have 3,000,000 homeless.

And six of every four college coeds are victims of date rape.


32 posted on 01/24/2007 3:26:11 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit; Strategerist

This number could possibly include deaths that involve illegals in car accidents.


33 posted on 01/24/2007 3:27:22 PM PST by staytrue
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To: L98Fiero

if even a quarter of that number turns out to be right, it still exceeds the number of Americans killed in the war AND on 9/11......and the fact that the government is trying to hide that number is an outrage.


34 posted on 01/24/2007 3:29:34 PM PST by Dreagon
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I'm quite certain that this claim is total bulls**t. And I'll bet that the proportion of "killers" among illegals is about the same as that among legals.


35 posted on 01/24/2007 3:31:37 PM PST by zook (America going insane - "Do you read Sutter Caine?)
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To: Dreagon

There's a difference between trying to hide a number and simply not bothering to collect or record it.


36 posted on 01/24/2007 3:35:27 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: staytrue

Even if you look at roughly 50,000 automobile deaths a year, considering the large swaths of the country where there are almost no illegals, the number of those accidents that are just reckless kids or drunkards killing themselves -

I honestly don't think you can realistically get to 45,000 since 9/11 adding that auto number to murders by illegals.


37 posted on 01/24/2007 3:37:34 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: zook

IIRC, I read somewhere that the number is incorrect as it was based on a study that said like 25 percent of the people in FEDERAL prison for murder are non-US citizens. This percentage was then applied to the general population of US prison, and further applied to take all "non-US citizens" as illegal aliens, which is not necessarily the case.

IIRC, the percentage of non-citizens in the US (local) prison population is substantially lower... that's not even counting only the illegal immigrants. I'll have to look it up, but I don't have time right now.


38 posted on 01/24/2007 3:37:58 PM PST by California74
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To: Dreagon

"if even a quarter of that number turns out to be right,"

Don't miss my point. I'm a hard opponent of illegal immigration but I'm a fan of provable facts to back me up. Without that, it's just some guy talkin'.

A lot of what the feds do is an outrage. If I felt like I had equal rights in this country, I wouldn't be moving from my home state.


39 posted on 01/24/2007 3:39:38 PM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: stockpirate

its 12 a day or 13k in 3 years.. can't be 45k but its still a scandal worth impeaching over.


40 posted on 01/24/2007 3:39:53 PM PST by omega4179 (Communism: Its back and arming Iran.)
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