Posted on 01/18/2007 9:27:26 AM PST by Dark Skies
As pro-lifers prepare to mark Mondays 34th anniversary of the Supreme Courts Roe vs. Wade decision, many wonder whether they could support former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani for president despite his pro-choice views. While some of Giulianis statements on abortion make pro-lifers fret, they should find his record surprisingly reassuring.
I dont like abortion, Giuliani said in South Carolinas The State newspaper last November 21. I dont think abortion is a good thing. I think we ought to find some alternative to abortion, and that there ought to be as few as possible.
Nevertheless, Giulianis pro-life critics point to his April 5, 2001 address to the National Abortion Rights Action Leagues Champions of Choice luncheon in Manhattan.
As a Republican who supports a womans right to choose, it is particularly an honor to be here, Giuliani said. He added: The government shouldnt dictate that choice by making it a crime or making it illegal.
I have a daughter now, Giuliani told TVs Phil Donahue during his unsuccessful 1989 mayoral campaign. Giuliani continued: I would give my personal advice, my religious and moral views I would help her with taking care of the baby. But if the ultimate choice of the woman -- my daughter or any other woman -- would be that in this particular circumstance, to have an abortion, Id support that. Id give my daughter the money for it.
But did Giulianis mayoral deeds match such words?
According to the state Office of Vital Statistics, total abortions performed in New York City between 1993 (just before Giuliani arrived) and 2001 (as he departed) fell from 103,997 to 86,466 -- a 16.86 percent decrease. This upended a 10.32 percent increase compared to eight years before Giuliani, when 1985 witnessed 94,270 abortions.
What about Medicaid-financed abortions? Under Giuliani, such taxpayer-funded feticides dropped 22.85 percent, from 45,006 in 1993 to 34,722 in 2001.
The abortion ratio also slid from 890 terminations per 1,000 live births in 1993 to 767 in 2001, a 13.82 percent tail-off. This far outpaced the 2.84 percent reduction from 1985s ratio of 916 to 1993s 890. While abortions remained far more common in Gotham than across America (2001s U.S. abortion ratio was 246), they diminished during Giulianis tenure, as they did nationally.
Giuliani essentially verbalized his pro-choice beliefs while avoiding policies that would have impeded abortions generally downward trajectory.
New York pro-lifers concede that Giuliani never attempted anything like what current Mayor Michael Bloomberg promulgated in July 2002. Eight city-run hospitals added abortion instruction to the training expected of their OB-GYN medical residents. Only those with moral objections may refuse this requirement.
Giuliani could have issued such rules, but never did.
Interestingly enough, after Giuliani left, Medicaid abortions under Bloomberg increased 5.19 percent from 34,722 in 2001 to 36,523 in 2003.
Asked if he could cite any Giuliani initiative that advanced abortion, New York State Conservative Party Chairman Mike Long told me, I dont remember, and I dont think so. He added: I never remember seeing him promote the issue, to my knowledge.
I like him a lot -- although he doesnt share my particular point of view on social issues, televangelist Pat Robertson said May 1, 2005 on ABCs This Week. He did a super job running the city of New York and I think hed make a good president.
If Giuliani can sway Pat Robertson, can he attract other pro-lifers? Short of dizzying himself and others with a 180-degree reversal from a pro-choice to a pro-life posture, Giuliani should embrace parental-notification rules, so minors who seek abortions need their folks permission, as they now do for ear piercing. He should oppose partial-birth abortion, which even Democrats such as Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada and liberal stalwart Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont have voted to prohibit.
Similarly, Giuliani should propose that Uncle Sam exit embryonic-stem-cell research laboratories and instead let drug companies -- not government -- finance such embryocidal experiments, if they must. He also could pledge to nominate constitutionalist judges skeptical of penumbras emanating outside Planned Parenthood clinics.
And, of course, Rudolph W. Giuliani should remind Republican primary voters that on his watch, total abortions, taxpayer-funded Medicaid abortions, and the abortion ratio all went the right way: down.
Mr. Murdock, a New York-based commentator to HUMAN EVENTS, is a columnist with the Scripps Howard News Service and a media fellow with the Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace at Stanford University.
Pinging the ping list.
So pro-lifers should be heartened because Mr. Giuliani didn't do anything to keep the abortion rate high?
Yeah, right.
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Thanks - I pinged everyone! Waiting for the onslaught! LOL!
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According to the CDC, from 1995 to 2000, total abortions in the US declined from 1.211 million to .857 million - or a decline of about 29 percent.
So abortion in NYC while Rudy was mayor declined at a rate roughly half that of the country as a whole.
OK, next attempt to paint Rudy as a pro-lifer...
So he is trying to flip flop already.
Get a load of this.
We're supposed to be GRATEFUL to Mr. Giuliani for not making the laws and regulations of New York City even MORE pro-abort than they are!
How's that go over with you, fellow social conservatives and pro-lifers?
"reduce the number of abortions"? That's what Hillary says.
I guess this means he's never had an abortion...
I dont like abortion, Giuliani said in South Carolinas The State newspaper last November 21. I dont think abortion is a good thing. I think we ought to find some alternative to abortion, and that there ought to be as few as possible.
What politician *doesn't* say this? Even Hillary called abortion "wrong."
Most Americans, including Republicans, are pro-choice. Rudy's on the right track.
ML/NJ
Sounds like Hillary Clinton's talking points.
Again...what would the President do to stop abortions? What did Bush do? I thought you wanted it to go back to the States anyway. I'll be honest and tell you that making abortion the number one issue is not only foolish, but dangerous for the country.
One Hit Wonders I call them - they apparently harp on only one issue and that's their mantra. I see they called for backup so we should be bombarded on this post!
So they're telling me I should be happy because it's not like he's organizing a bus caravan to the clinic and performing them himself?
Rrrrriiiiight.
Rudy G (and all his camp-followers, cheerleaders, and sycophants) can pound sand.
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