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1 posted on 01/18/2007 9:27:27 AM PST by Dark Skies
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To: areafiftyone

Pinging the ping list.


2 posted on 01/18/2007 9:28:05 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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So pro-lifers should be heartened because Mr. Giuliani didn't do anything to keep the abortion rate high?

Yeah, right.


3 posted on 01/18/2007 9:30:43 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Blackirish; Jameison; Sabramerican; BunnySlippers; tkathy; veronica; Roccus; Jake The Goose; ...

((((((PING)))))))


4 posted on 01/18/2007 9:31:02 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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Ping!


6 posted on 01/18/2007 9:32:54 AM PST by HitmanLV (Rock, Rock, Rock and Rollergames! Rockin' & Rolling, Rockin' with Rollergames!)
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According to the state Office of Vital Statistics, total abortions performed in New York City between 1993 (just before Giuliani arrived) and 2001 (as he departed) fell from 103,997 to 86,466 -- a 16.86 percent decrease.

According to the CDC, from 1995 to 2000, total abortions in the US declined from 1.211 million to .857 million - or a decline of about 29 percent.

So abortion in NYC while Rudy was mayor declined at a rate roughly half that of the country as a whole.

OK, next attempt to paint Rudy as a pro-lifer...

7 posted on 01/18/2007 9:33:31 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter - a candidate who doesn't need infomercials to convince you he's a conservative)
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To: Dark Skies

So he is trying to flip flop already.


8 posted on 01/18/2007 9:34:04 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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I guess this means he's never had an abortion...


11 posted on 01/18/2007 9:35:40 AM PST by RabidBartender
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Good grief.

“I don’t like abortion,” Giuliani said in South Carolina’s The State newspaper last November 21. “I don’t think abortion is a good thing. I think we ought to find some alternative to abortion, and that there ought to be as few as possible.”

What politician *doesn't* say this? Even Hillary called abortion "wrong."

12 posted on 01/18/2007 9:36:34 AM PST by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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There's more than one way to be "pro life." Refusing to let Arafat enter Avery Fisher Hall, and refusing tainted Saudi donations are two that I can think of.

ML/NJ

14 posted on 01/18/2007 9:37:21 AM PST by ml/nj
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So they're telling me I should be happy because it's not like he's organizing a bus caravan to the clinic and performing them himself?

Rrrrriiiiight.


19 posted on 01/18/2007 9:39:36 AM PST by VirginiaConstitutionalist (Support Ron Paul for President)
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I don’t like abortion,” Giuliani said in South Carolina’s The State newspaper last November 21. “I don’t think abortion is a good thing. I think we ought to find some alternative to abortion, and that there ought to be as few as possible.”

How many times have we heard that one? That's the public position taken by all "pro-choice" politicians.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but I don't see anything that Giuliani actually did to restrict abortions in a way that would be satisfactory from a right-to-life point of view. He apparently didn't promote abortion as Bloomberg does, but the decline in abortions in NYC during his time in office seems to be more of a coincidence than anything else.

27 posted on 01/18/2007 9:42:25 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Illinois -- Land of Obama)
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To: Dark Skies

He's still anti-gun, pro gay and cheated on his wife.

Hunter doesn't have to send MSM shills out like this to get his conservative side shown.


31 posted on 01/18/2007 9:43:41 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance ("Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.")
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This for posting this!

Won't be long for the doom and gloomers to be showing up with their 'sky is falling' if you support Rudy.

After giving it a lot of thought, I have decided that this 'Common Sense Conservative' will be supporting Rudy all the way and am getting prepared to go make a donation. I am following the position of Ronald Reagan which also is being followed by Sen Brownback in this quote --“It’s a big-tent party and has been for a long period of time, particularly since Ronald Reagan talked about this being a party of different viewpoints,” he said. “If somebody agrees with you 80 percent of the time, he’s not your enemy.” Sam Brownback In the end, there are going to be a lot more Common Sense Conservatives supporting Rudy then the doom and gloomers will ever imagine. We want a leader who is optimistic and will stand up for America in the War on Terror. That man is RUDY IMHO! I am pro-life but I support Rudy more than 80% on the issues because I know he will appoint strict constitutionalist judges and hope to one day see the abortion issue back at the State level where it belongs. Gloves came off yesterday and ready for the fight!

32 posted on 01/18/2007 9:44:33 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Common Sense Conservative - Vote Rudy/Allen - Take Back the House and Senate in '08)
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That dog don't hunt!


44 posted on 01/18/2007 9:47:57 AM PST by FreeInWV
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Yet another TRIAL BALLOOR for the Rudy exploratory committee.

SMILE FELLOW FREEPERS WE ARE BEING FOCUS GROUPED!


46 posted on 01/18/2007 9:48:17 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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many wonder whether they could support former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani for president despite his pro-choice views.

Not me. I have absolutely no doubt: I would NEVER vote for him under any circumstances.
57 posted on 01/18/2007 9:52:25 AM PST by BMIC
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Come on, Rudy, show us what you can do in the real world, against a rabid goose! Hell, I would really be pleased if
Rudy was aware that MOST of us don't live in NYC, and don't even want to live there.
Tellyawhat I'm sure about, Rudy has never headed out to check the mail, and come up on a big cottonmouth with an attitude problem, sitting on the path. NYC gangbangers are no different from the snakes in my yard, simple to control, if you have the balls to do it!
There are at least a couple of "alternate realities" around, lots of problems, but if your solutions to the problems include clamping down on freedom, you are in the wrong party, and the wrong Nation.


59 posted on 01/18/2007 9:52:42 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (BUAIDH NO BAS, JUST SAY NO TO RINO!)
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i AM FOR LIFE BUT I AM AGAINST GOVERNMENT BEING THE ARBITRATOR OF WHETHER IT SHOULD EXIST.


64 posted on 01/18/2007 9:55:52 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal (q)
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Probably going to take a beating for this, but it's the combination of his social positions (pro-choice, anti-gun) that does me in on him. I like him on defense but the life AND second amendment issues say no.


67 posted on 01/18/2007 9:56:44 AM PST by trimom
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Look, if Giuliani is pro-choice, then he's pro-choice, and the primary voters will have to decide whether that is an important issue to them or not. But this article is a real stretch to put it politely, unless you want to call Bill Clinton pro-life because the national abortion rate declined while he was in office.


73 posted on 01/18/2007 10:01:10 AM PST by LWalk18
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