Posted on 12/06/2006 10:43:05 AM PST by Young Werther
NASA photographs have revealed bright new deposits seen in two gullies on Mars that suggest water carried sediment through them sometime during the past seven years.
"These observations give the strongest evidence to date that water still flows occasionally on the surface of Mars," said Michael Meyer, lead scientist for NASA's Mars Exploration Program, Washington
(Excerpt) Read more at nasa.gov ...
"Whut'chu talkin' about? -- Willis?"
OTOH, if someone were a cynical leftist snot who wanted to make conservatives look like a bunch of ignoramuses at ZERO cost to himself, he'd sit down at his keyboard, log onto FR, give himself a name like "TraditionalistMommy" and spout some aggressively anti-intellectual agitprop guaranteed to offend educated people.
It is said that one should never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity, but at some point along the stupidity scale, "benefit of doubt" seems to undergo a phase transition.
That only happens when you leave your goat tied up out in the open. ;-)
Are there two Bibles, one for earth humans and another for space aliens? Are there two salvation plans?
The point of Christianity is not that life is "exclusive" It is that sin exists on earth.
Do you believe in the literal words that man was created in the image of God? Do you honestly believe God is 5'11, 200 pounds? What genitalia does God possess? Is God male because the Bible refers to God as "Him"?
Or is the Creation story allegory? Is "God's Image" not physical form but self-aware intelligence?
If you believe it's allegory, and God's Image is self-awareness, then Christianity is reconcilable with the idea of a universe teeming with intelligent life.
Personally, I've always felt that a universe full of life speaks even more to me, of the greater glory of the subtleness of God. I'd be disappointed if it turned out that we were alone.
Were life discovered elsewhere, some scientists would try to use that discovery against religion but, by and large, they couldn't be considered credible. The existence of God cannot be proven or disproved by a scientist describing how the circulatory system distributes oxygen throughout the body: it's not a religious question. It's just a description of how something in the physical universe works.
The same goes for finding life on another planet: it's not a religious issue, it's just how something in the universe works. The religious nature of such a discovery would be entirely a personal decision.
Ah yes, spontaneous generation just needs a little water for life to magically appear from non-living matter.
If you haven't read Whitehead you ought to. Once you get used to the way he parses sentences, you may find that you are in complete agreement with his philosophy. What you wrote would be very close to what he wrote.
I can remember seeing "canals" on Mars 60 years ago.
LOL! Why would I do that? We disagree about something, that does't make me a terrorist.
There is alot of pro-evolution propoganda out there in the media, as if there is no question at all about it (there are lots of questions!). I'm not the only person who believes in God's Creation as written in the Bible! I don't think there's life on other planets. I believe Earth is the heart of God's Creation. The rest of the planets and stars were created on the fourht day, and they aren't millions of years old. How could they be, when they were created after Earth?
I'm not telling you you have to believe what I believe, I'm saying I worry about the way science is twisted to promote evolution, especially in the schools, where some students never get to hear the other side. I see these life on Mars stories as dangerous that way.
Never mind the search for life. Water means colonization. The last thing we want is to find life there. If we do, the environuts will do everything they can to stop colonization.
I assume there is life there and we will find it even it would be better from a space colonization standpoint if Mars and all is sterile not because it would be preferable biologically (it might not be) but because the legal world is apparently the true world and will keep us marooned on this mudball for the rest of time.
Marvin covered them up to prevent prying eyes from perceiving the presence of people!
Personally, I don't see how liquid water in any significant amount, can exist on the surface of mars.
The air pressure is too low. If you put a bathtub of it out, it would be gone in less than an hour.
True. As demonstrated in physics class, the water will either boil off or freeze or both right away, a function more of atmospheric pressure than of temperature.
Oh brother....other side of what? Adam and Eve...you want to promote the story of Adam and Eve as a counter weight to evolution?
I am sure there are many thousand interpretations of the story of Adam and Eve, but the one I like best is the one told by Rabbi Yossi New at Mythic Journeys '04. According to one Midrash, the prohibition against eating of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil did not pertain to the Sabbath.
In other words, as of Friday night, with the welcoming of the Sabbath, Adam and Eve would be permitted to eat of this tree for the duration of the Sabbath. Now a lot happened on the sixth day. First, God created all of the animals and creeping things. Then He created Adam. Then every beast of the field and bird of the sky was brought before Adam and he named them. Finally, a deep sleep was cast over Adam, and Eve was created. This is a lot to accomplish in one day, even for God! It must have been getting very late in the day. The Sabbath would begin at sunset, which by this time must have been at most a few hours away, and most likely only minutes. As soon as the sun set, the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was free to be eaten, and before then, it was certain death. And yet Eve couldn't wait?! Adam, too. The two most holy, and perfect humans on Earth (okay, the only humans on Earth), and they couldn't wait a few hours before digging into the one forbidden fruit. Why is this? How could it be?
Yosef Yozel Hurwitz, a great 19th century Rabbi also known as the Alter of Navardok and the author of Madragat Ha-Adam (The Stature of Man), has one possible explanation for how this could have happened — Eve chose to eat the fruit from a place of great wisdom and devotion. She knew exactly what she was doing. She was frustrated that she was a perfect being, with no knowledge or inclination towards evil. She felt that she could not properly serve God, if she had no free will. If she did not have any evil inclination, then she would have no free will, for she would only be acting out of a pure desire to please the Divine. She would be nothing more than a robot. Only by being drawn towards the darkness and understanding it could she have the will to choose the light. In fact, I would go further and add that only by experiencing, integrating and sublimating evil could she ever fully and truly understand the Divine.
In order to achieve this experience of God, she was willing to unleash death, pain and suffering into the world, for she knew that these are the very crucibles within which we become fully human and fully divine.
At the very outset of the Bible, this lesson is given, and it is repeated over and over again throughout every story. Every character endures suffering in his or her quest for meaning. In fact, each trial ultimately brings forth the knowledge that is necessary to continue towards the next step in the journey. With each death and rebirth there is new hope, new momentum in our quest. Without pain, progress is difficult. Without suffering, wisdom is scarce, and without death, there is no enlightenment. I do not mean to be morbid or fatalistic. Certainly, there is much to be gained from basking in the light, but we must plumb the murky, dark depths in order to appreciate and radiate the light in a deeper way.
As Buddha said, "All life is suffering." The divinity shines when you can rise above your own suffering.
But ofcourse, you folks trivilize the Biblical stories as literal and then you lose the entire plot and the real lesson the Bible is attempting to teach you. The Bible is not answering your quesiton where you came from...it's not interested in that!
Today's chemistry lesson - Phase diagram...
http://www.chemistrycoach.com/Phase_diagram.htm
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