What leftists love about libertarian voters is that they elect democrats.....
Its a tough coalition to pull together. The problem is the GOP need it all to win. The tension between the libertarians and the social conservatives will always be there but when it fractures the results are evident.
Internal contradiction contained in this statement: without foundational rights, the very liberty he speaks of cannot exist. If the second part of his statement is true, and a majority of people reject the moral presuppositions upon which our founding documents rest, America as delineated in those documents is finished.
Good for the libertarians like me. (Though I hate abortion. It's a life, not a "choice")
If Rinos had wings they could fly.
Marked.
Great article.
No argument there. What I disagree with is the idea that libertarians are a natural and consistent part of the Republican constituency.
Great article, thanks for posting it
I am personally acquainted with the Libertarian candidate who ran in the Sodrel/Hill race in IN-9. (A fine fellow, by the way, even though I didn't vote for him.) He got 4% of the vote, the margin of victory was less than 3% (if memory serves). But he told me that the polling indicates that he took most of his votes away from the Democrat, Baron Hill. (The polls ask questions on things like abortion, as well as who you voted for.)
The GOP lost the middle - centrists, independents and libertarians.
"What I love about libertarian voters is that they vote on principle, not on party"
read the last paragragh in this post
Thursday, February 02, 2006
George Soros and the Libertarians
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1735129/posts?page=140#140
(snip)
Libertarian ideologues are so hardline with their beliefs, that they believe anyone who disagrees with their policies is to the Left of them. That type of thinking can lead to exploitation by anti-American ideologues and Communist agents through people like Soros and his associates. Such ideologues like these can no longer remain sane and are being used as puppets to forward a secret agenda.
Marking.
Three good conservatives go down.
Thanks libertarians.
As a libertarian leaning conservative, I don't think it's that they themselves are socially liberal. We just want the government to butt out of most social issues. Our own morals, not those imposed by the government, should dictate our behavior (generally).
I do enjoy seeing the still close-minded name calling though. It's always good for a chuckle.
The failure of the strategery of the Republicans, to focus on "the base" by trotting out social issues such as the South Dakota no-exception abortion ban (which lost, I'm pleased to say) demonstrated two things: First, social issues do not have long coat-tails. Second, the GOP base is fiscal conservatives more than it is social conservatives.
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This is wrong in two areas. First, the Republicans need both fiscal and social conservatives to win. Second, Libertarians cannot support unregulated abortion and be true to their ideals.
The basic premise of libertarianism is that each individual should be free to do as he or she pleases so long as he or she does not harm others. This is totally at odds with legal abortion.
Abortion is killing an unborn baby. Pro-abortion Libertarians try to deny this simple truth but the scientific evidence is overwhelming that the unborn baby is a living human person.
By 21 days after conception the baby pumps his own blood through separate closed circulatory system with his own blood type. By 42 days the baby’s brain waves can be recorded, his skeleton is complete, and reflexes present. He also has unique human DNA.
In every state in the nation death occurs when there is no brain wave or no heart beat. If both exit no state recognizes that life has ended. If life has not ended when both exist it must be present when both exist. So while we cannot scientifically prove when life begins, we can scientifically determine when it is present and detectable.
Therefore, no Libertarian can be against laws that prohibit abortion after the 42nd day after conception. At least, they can’t be against such laws and remain true to the basic premise they espouse.
They can make a case for allowing abortion before 42 days after conception if they want to and still be consistent. But after that time a separate, unique, human life is unquestionably being ended by any abortion.
Libertarian support for killing unborn babies is one of the biggest issues keeping many people from considering the Libertarian party as a viable alternative to the Republican Party. It also flies in the face of their most basic belief.
They need to change their stance on abortion.
Again, I would remind you all that if no Libertarian candidate had been on the ballot in Montana or the other races where R + L > D in the vote totals, it is not clear this year that the Libertarian vote would have broken so strongly GOP that we would have won those seats.
This election was largely about defense policy, and the Libertarian party is as isolationist as the demonRATs. Why, with foreign affairs pulling them toward the 'RATs do you think their free-market stance and fiscal conservatism would trump their social liberalism and land them in our camp?
Hogwash.
"the party that went from Social Security reform"
In the midst of the grueling Iraq problems, rotten Plamegame, BUSH LIED!!!!!, Sheehan-stalking, UN reform, etc, President Bush burned up precious political capital and time traveling the country for months last year trying push through Social Security reform...
And then the libertarians rewarded him and the GOP by handing America to the Marxist Party that sabotaged it.
*spit*
To those of you who agree with Sanchez and the obnoxious choir echoing his juvenile tantrums, I'm glad you are not in my camp or my party. I would be ashamed to have you on my side.
The Republicans still have the majority, Bush should call them into session and end earmarks.