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The Iraq War Is a Cake-Walk
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Posted on 11/02/2006 8:26:18 AM PST by Dominic Harr

In a month of fighting on Iwo Jima, we had over 6,000 dead, 25,000 wounded.

And that was a victory.

And now, many Americans consider 2,500 dead/20,000 wounded over several years to be a loss!?

The only hope for victory the enemy has is American public opinion. We've won all the battles. We kill more of them than they kill of us. We hold most of the territory.

Yet I even see Rs calling this a 'failed' war, and suggesting we can't win.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: deathbyhanging; iraq; killalqaeda; killhamas; killhezbollah; killmoreterrorists
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Please forgive me for the vanity, but I'm very interested in this issue. I'm always fascinated when 'conventional wisdom' is flat-out-wrong. 'Group-think' just fascinates me.

The issue seems so easy to win in a debate. Every single time I chat with someone on the issue, they end up agreeing with me.

1 posted on 11/02/2006 8:26:20 AM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr

Support The Troops, Vote Republican


2 posted on 11/02/2006 8:26:56 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Dominic Harr

Dont forget the 9000 KIA in one day at Normandy


3 posted on 11/02/2006 8:27:28 AM PST by Former MSM Viewer ("We will hunt the terrorists in every dark corner of the earth. We will be relentless." W 2001)
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To: Dominic Harr

Please send this to Ralph Peters. He is the latest and greatest victim of Paul Craig Roberts syndrome.


4 posted on 11/02/2006 8:28:14 AM PST by .cnI redruM (We can leave the battle field, but the battle field will not leave us.)
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To: Former MSM Viewer
Dont forget the 9000 KIA in one day at Normandy

Outstanding point. Thanks. I just saw 'Flags of our Fathers' so I was thinking about Iwo Jima, but your point is even more illustrative.

How is it suddenly 2,500 dead over years is a 'disaster'?

5 posted on 11/02/2006 8:28:48 AM PST by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: george76

I know a few folks who wouldn't call their time in Iraq a cake walk...


6 posted on 11/02/2006 8:28:51 AM PST by nicko (CW3 (ret.) CPT, you need to just unass the AO; I know what I'm doing- Major, you're on your own.)
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To: Dominic Harr
Viewed on the wide table of history, the War in Iraq and in Afghanistan are BY FAR the least bloody and most utterly overwhelming military campaigns in the history of history.
7 posted on 11/02/2006 8:30:07 AM PST by Danae (Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: Dominic Harr

The kill ratio in Afghanistan is 100 to 1 in our favor, yet the libs say we are losing.


8 posted on 11/02/2006 8:31:44 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Dominic Harr
The Iraq War Is a Cake-Walk

Remember, the war in Iraq has been over for quite some time. Saddam's army was defeated. What's going on now is in the same place, but it's not the same conflict.
9 posted on 11/02/2006 8:31:51 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Dominic Harr

Subject: Iraq versus Washington

If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq theatre of operations during the last 22 months, and a total of 2,112 deaths, that gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.

The firearm death rate in Washington, D.C. is 80.6 per 100,000 for the same period. That means that you are about 25% more likely to be shot and killed in the U.S. Capitol, which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation, than you are in Iraq.

Conclusion: The U.S. should pull out of Washington immediately.


10 posted on 11/02/2006 8:32:07 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Dominic Harr
That was a different world, dude.

You might also point out that the U.S. eventually dropped two atomic bombs on the enemy in that specific example.

Since that ain't gonna happen anytime soon in Iraq, your point is -- well, pointless.

11 posted on 11/02/2006 8:32:39 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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For example, 2,300 murdered in California in 2003.

Iraq isn't a cakewalk but we lost 3,200 in ONE DAY in 2001.


12 posted on 11/02/2006 8:33:32 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Former MSM Viewer
Dont forget the 9000 KIA in one day at Normandy

About 9,000 casualties on D-Day including around 3,000 killed.

13 posted on 11/02/2006 8:33:51 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Hey Kerry, What part of showing heels and ass is a winning strategy in Iraq?)
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To: nicko
I know a few folks who wouldn't call their time in Iraq a cake walk...

Compared to Omaha beach? Or Iwo Jima?

I don't believe you.

14 posted on 11/02/2006 8:33:59 AM PST by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: aruanan
What's going on now is in the same place, but it's not the same conflict.

Much like WWI and WWII were really the same conflict, I don't think history will agree with you -- in my opinion.

15 posted on 11/02/2006 8:35:07 AM PST by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: Dominic Harr

Cake walk ???


16 posted on 11/02/2006 8:35:35 AM PST by NYleatherneck (It ain't a World War until the French surrender.)
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To: 2banana
You're mixing up a monthly rate / 100,000 in Iraq with a yearly rate in DC. Also, a lot (maybe most) of the deaths of our troops in Iraq are from explosives rather than gunfire.
17 posted on 11/02/2006 8:36:14 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Hey Kerry, What part of showing heels and ass is a winning strategy in Iraq?)
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To: Alberta's Child
That was a different world, dude.

Right -- a world in which the people had been thru *real* hard times, a previous major war (WWI) and a great depression.

Now, people have had it so easy, that they are ignorant of 'real' bad times, of a 'real' military disaster.

Our troubles always consume us, no matter how minor those troubles are. It's human nature.

18 posted on 11/02/2006 8:37:16 AM PST by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: NYleatherneck
Cake walk ???

Compared to a Iwo Jima? Or Normandy? Or WWI? Or the Civil War?

Yes.

19 posted on 11/02/2006 8:38:36 AM PST by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: Dominic Harr

....ask some soldier sitting in a Vet hospital with no arms and legs pissing out of a tube if Iraq has been a cake walk.

Opinions differ.

At the very least...it's a bad choice of words.


20 posted on 11/02/2006 8:38:42 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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