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Govt. Tells Singles No Sex Till You're 30
ABSNews Health ^ | 10/31/06 | Brian Hartman

Posted on 11/01/2006 10:48:21 AM PST by steve-b

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To: Andonius_99
It's better that the government take no position at all in any role involving people's daily lives. No matter what side of the issue the government is on, they're wrong because they are performing duties out of the realm of their responsibility.

If you're talking about the federal or state govts, I agree. This is not outside the realm of local or civic govt however.

That said, the govt is currently NOT NEUTRAL on the issue. For decades, they've been on the degenerate side of the issue, slowly eroding classical Western morality in the US. IMHO, if the govt is going to gravitate toward one side or the other (vice versus prudery), I'd take Aristotle's advice and hew toward the less harmful extreme: prudery.
81 posted on 11/01/2006 11:24:34 AM PST by Antoninus (Ruin a Democrat's day...help re-elect Rick Santorum.)
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To: Oberon
With my luck, I'd fall in love with someone one year younger than me.

True, but maybe you'd be lucky enough that that person was married. These guidelines don't effect married people, so they can have all the adultrous sexual affairs they want!

82 posted on 11/01/2006 11:25:54 AM PST by dpwiener
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To: Pondman88
Should the govt encourage 20 year olds to act like bunnies???

If you're a rightly constructed 20-year-old (Aaaah, the memories!) you will be perfectly capable of acting like a bunny without the manipulative assistance of any bureaucrat.

83 posted on 11/01/2006 11:25:55 AM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: steve-b
I suppoose $50,000,000 is no big deal to someone for whom "roughing it" means cutting back one's Hamptons vacation, but it is a big deal to normal people.

I certainly hope you're not referring to me--the guy who takes public transit to work and drives a 10 year old Ford with a dent in the door....

What percentage of the total budget for the DH&HS does that $50 million make up, bud? Any idea?
84 posted on 11/01/2006 11:26:34 AM PST by Antoninus (Ruin a Democrat's day...help re-elect Rick Santorum.)
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To: RockinRight
Should government mandate that? I think not.

Completely agreed. However, after actually reading the article rather than relying on a really stupid headline for the article, it appears that if the government is going to spend money on counseling programs and social services, this is a good idea. Here are a few points from the article, along with the actual guidelines:

"The government's clarification published in August is not a mandate," the Administration for Children and Families said in a statement prepared in response to ABC News questions. "We are unclear why Advocates for Youth suddenly believes (after two months) that States should be denied the flexibility to provide young adults with the truth that abstinence is the only 100 percent effective way of avoiding unwanted pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases."

.... "Those who delay sex until marriage avoid out-of-wedlock births in both their teen and adult years," the guidelines read. "They decrease the likelihood of acquiring a sexually transmitted disease. They reduce the risk of having children who live absent from their fathers or who grow up poor."

Guidelines:
Groups with Greatest Needs
Using supporting data and focusing on the needs of adolescents and/or adults within the age range of 12 through 29 years old, identify groups within the State whose members are most likely to bear children out-of-wedlock. Other adults such as parents or professionals that desire training in how to support decisions to delay sexual activity until marriage may also be included as focal populations.

As appropriate, describe the cultural characteristics and unique needs of the identified groups by factors such as gender, age, ethnicity, family structure, community needs, geographic region within which the focal population lives, available rates of risk behaviors, or other relevant mental, physical, health, and/or social needs.

Existing Programs
Describe existing programs designed to support decisions to delay sexual activity until marriage and which provide abstinence education as defined by Section 510(b)(2) of the Social Security Act.

Gaps in Services
Describe gaps in services designed to support decisions to delay sexual activity until marriage and which provide abstinence education as defined by Section 510(b)(2) of the Social Security Act.

Focal Population(s)
Describe the focal population(s) that the State proposes to reach with abstinence education from those groups identified as groups with greatest needs. The focal population(s) may include adolescents and/or adults within the age range of 12 through 29 years old as well as other adults such as parents or professionals that desire training in how to support decisions to delay sexual activity until marriage.

As appropriate, include the rationale for prioritizing the focal population(s) over other groups that may have been identified in Section I but not included as a focal population.

People like Wagoner, who argue this is a promotion of an ideology and has nothing to do with public health are in fact promoting their own ideology, which seeks to eliminate social mores regarding sex outside of marriage. His argument that these guidelines have nothing to do with public health is disengenuous since abstinence IS the most effective way to avoid STDs and unwanted pregnancey.
85 posted on 11/01/2006 11:26:47 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: BritExPatInFla

These shifting policies are very confusing. When we endured the Clinton co-presidency, we had Surgeon General Minnie Jocelyn Eldgers advocating masturbation. Tax dollars now go to school districts to provide free condoms. Certain groups want to eliminate parents' rights to consent to, or in some cases even be informed of, their daughter's decision to obtain an abortion.

Radical Idea for the social engineers: just stay out of it.


86 posted on 11/01/2006 11:27:08 AM PST by dashing doofus
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To: Brilliant
If you're single, you shouldn't be having sex even if you're in your 30's.

Will all the Taliban in this forum please take this advice to heart? This will leave the gene pool clear for the rest of us.

87 posted on 11/01/2006 11:27:51 AM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: Rakkasan1

If this is implemented, they will need to hire sex police. They will take numerous applications for crooked cops. Haaaaa


88 posted on 11/01/2006 11:28:01 AM PST by dforest (be careful you don't become what you hate the most)
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To: steve-b

Have all the sex you want, but just don't expect a dime from the Gubmint if you do so.

Take the King's coin, do the King's bidding.


89 posted on 11/01/2006 11:28:35 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Antoninus
I'd be leery of getting the federal government involved in this again.

I think Sanger would have been less than a footnote in the history books without Comstock.

90 posted on 11/01/2006 11:30:34 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Antoninus
I'd be leery of getting the federal government involved in this again.

I think Sanger would have been less than a footnote in the history books without Comstock.

91 posted on 11/01/2006 11:30:36 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: wastedyears

So find a good woman and marry her.


92 posted on 11/01/2006 11:31:06 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: BlazingArizona

Taliban?

They don't usually post here.


93 posted on 11/01/2006 11:32:01 AM PST by Skooz
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To: wastedyears
I don't have a girlfriend =/

Here's my advice to you--Get a good education. Get a good job. Buy your own house and learn how to work with your hands. Excercise and keep yourself clean and fit. Get involved with your church youth/young adult group. Wait to have intercourse until your wedding day and don't be afraid to declare it to the ladies. By age 25 or there abouts, if you don't have about 20 attractive young women with similar values suddenly finding you "very interesting", I'd be shocked. If you're not married by age 30, I'd be amazed.

There's nothing quality women find more attractive than a good man who's not ruled by his penis.
94 posted on 11/01/2006 11:33:46 AM PST by Antoninus (Ruin a Democrat's day...help re-elect Rick Santorum.)
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To: Antoninus
What percentage of the total budget for the DH&HS does that $50 million make up

Too much.

95 posted on 11/01/2006 11:33:57 AM PST by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: Andonius_99

The Second Amendment gurantees the right to bear arms. Since the right to protect yourself is a near universal principle, should we do away with that one? Seems superflous to me.


96 posted on 11/01/2006 11:34:13 AM PST by 50sDad (The GOP dumped Foley, the Dems kept Clinton. See the difference?)
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To: qam1

Education somehow becomes forced compliance.


97 posted on 11/01/2006 11:34:20 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: tacticalogic
I'd be leery of getting the federal government involved in this again.

Again? When did they stop?
98 posted on 11/01/2006 11:35:07 AM PST by Antoninus (Ruin a Democrat's day...help re-elect Rick Santorum.)
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To: Antoninus
the govt is currently NOT NEUTRAL on the issue.

That's the problem, though. The government shouldn't be taking any side on this issue, let alone any other issue. Man's rights are man's rights, the role of government is simply to protect them and to leave morality to men.

99 posted on 11/01/2006 11:36:03 AM PST by Andonius_99 (They [liberals] aren't humans, but rather a species of hairless retarded ape.)
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To: indylindy

Double Plus Good!


100 posted on 11/01/2006 11:36:10 AM PST by 50sDad (The GOP dumped Foley, the Dems kept Clinton. See the difference?)
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