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Prince Charles should be 'Defender of the faith'
National News (UK) ^ | 10/22/06

Posted on 10/30/2006 9:29:28 AM PST by presidio9

A Christian group is calling on Prince Charles to take the title 'Defender of the Faith' when he is crowned king.

The Evangelical Alliance, which represents Christians across the UK, will make the submission in its Faith and Nation report due to be launched tomorrow.

The Prince has previously said he would like to be sworn as the 'Defender of Faith', taking into account the numerous religious groups represented in Great Britain.

Charles will become Supreme Governor of the Church of England when he is crowned king.

But the Evangelical Alliance, which represents over one million evangelical Christians in the UK, is calling for him to swear the traditional corontaion oath to be 'Defender of the Faith' - specifically the Anglican Church.

The call is among 100 recommendations to be made, ranging from religious liberty and the environment to constiutional affairs.

Evangelical Alliance public policy director Dr David Muir said: "The report offers Christians, people of other faiths and those of no faith resources for engagement, discussion and action on a wide range of contempory issues.

"We hope the report will help people understand the continued importance of the Christian faith in 21st century Britian."

The Prince's remarks on his coronation oath have sparked controversy in the past.

Former Archbishop of Canterbury Lord Carey welcomed the proposed change, saying it would more adequately reflect the wide range of religions in the UK.

He said in June: "When the time comes for the next coronation there's got to be a number of changes. Very significant changes. The Queen came to the throne at a time when the Church of England was really the only Christian faith in the country.

"And there were no Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus around to be in any way evident in the life of the country. Now it's a completely different world, so the coronation oath would have to be looked at more critically.

"It's got to be a much more interfaith coronation service next time around. Prince Charles put his finger on it and there's no way in which the sovereign can be defender of one faith. Although I hope that the next coronation will say very firmly that Christianity is still the dominant faith of the United Kingdom... it's got to be a much more inclusive character."

But Dr Rowan Williams, current Archbishop of Canterbury, has warned in the past the Charles should retain the original title.

Speaking in 2003 he said: "Unless something really radical happens with the constitution, he is, like it or not, Defender of the Faith and he has a relationship with the Christian Church of a kind which he does not have with other faith communities."


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1 posted on 10/30/2006 9:29:30 AM PST by presidio9
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With some help from God, Charles will never be king.


2 posted on 10/30/2006 9:30:47 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: presidio9

FWIW, I wouldn't want this guy defending my faith....

3 posted on 10/30/2006 9:30:54 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Spktyr

He's a closet Muslim (or at least those are the rumors).


4 posted on 10/30/2006 9:32:18 AM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer (The Democrats solution is poison. When the patient is dying, their solution - more poison.)
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To: presidio9

There are two problems with this:

1) I have yet to see substantive evidence that Prince Charles has any faith in any recognizable relgion.

2) even if he did, the Anglican Church in England has no recognizable doctrinal stance, therefore no recognizable faith to defend.


5 posted on 10/30/2006 9:32:32 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (www.stjosephssanford.org: Ecce Pactum, id cape aut id relinque)
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To: Spktyr


which prince is it that's on active duty with the British military? Seems like there's hope for the royal line...


6 posted on 10/30/2006 9:33:22 AM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: presidio9

King Moron suits me. I think he looks too much like Cindy Sheehan. I don't care for anything he does and I think the best thing he ever had was Princess Diana. He messed that up royally too the dope.


7 posted on 10/30/2006 9:34:13 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: presidio9

Without the Christian faith, there would be no freedom to practice the other religions. Defend whose faith? Muslims? They'll never defend yours...


8 posted on 10/30/2006 9:35:20 AM PST by pgyanke (We can't share the blessings of peace with those for whom violence is holy imperative. -andy58-in-nh)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

which prince is it that's on active duty with the British military? Seems like there's hope for the royal line...


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Harry, I believe.


9 posted on 10/30/2006 9:35:34 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy; in hoc signo vinces

Harry, I believe.

10 posted on 10/30/2006 9:36:49 AM PST by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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The story goes that Harry finally grew up....although being on active duty and actually serving (instead of some non-job behind the lines) would make a man out of him, if he wasn't already.


11 posted on 10/30/2006 9:37:48 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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Is there occasion to skip at royal generation in Britain ?
12 posted on 10/30/2006 9:37:50 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Prince Harry, who is third in line for the throne - after Charles his father and William his brother. Harry's already finished Sandhurst , William is still working on finishing.


13 posted on 10/30/2006 9:39:05 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: presidio9

I think Charles is playing 'em. A few years ago, there was a question of whether he should be "Defender of the Faith," the nominal head of the CoE, with his divorce and his documented adultery -- now he's got 'em down to arguing over a definite article.


14 posted on 10/30/2006 9:39:25 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: presidio9
Ever seen the statue?

15 posted on 10/30/2006 9:39:25 AM PST by evets (pumkin beer.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I don't know the rules of royal succession, but since the Queen isn't in any hurry to retire, I'm going to guess that Charles might at some point become too old for the job; if that occurs, I think the older son, William, would be king. I wouldn't mind that -- from what I heard Williams is a sensible young man. And he looks a heckuva lot better than the rest of the royals.


16 posted on 10/30/2006 9:40:17 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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Harry is half Windsor. The genetics of that inbred clan are beyond redemption.


17 posted on 10/30/2006 9:40:38 AM PST by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

There's been some in the past, IIRC - when the heir apparent just didn't want the job or was incompetent. That said, there have been a lot of times in Brit history when they really *should* have skipped a generation and didn't.


18 posted on 10/30/2006 9:40:42 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: fatnotlazy

The Brits ought to just make Madonna Queen and get it over with already.


19 posted on 10/30/2006 9:41:51 AM PST by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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Harry is half Windsor. The genetics of that inbred clan are beyond redemption.

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And so is his brother William for that matter. As I said, if nothing else, some of Diana's good looks rubbed off, at least to William. Harry isn't all that bad looking either compared to his father and some of the others.

And Harry doesn't have the corner on stupid actions and comments either. I remember his aunt Anne once declared that "pregnancy is a bore." What a waste of humanity she is.


20 posted on 10/30/2006 9:46:43 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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