Posted on 10/14/2006 11:16:50 AM PDT by lizol
Keep Darwin's 'lies' out of Polish schools: education official 2 hours.
WARSAW (AFP) - Poland's deputy education minister called for the influential evolutionary theories of Charles Darwin not to be taught in the country's schools, branding them "lies."
"The theory of evolution is a lie, an error that we have legalised as a common truth," Miroslaw Orzechowski, the deputy minister in the country's right-wing coalition government, was quoted as saying by the Gazeta Wyborcza daily Saturday.
Orzechowski said the theory was "a feeble idea of an aged non-believer," who had come up with it "perhaps because he was a vegetarian and lacked fire inside him."
The evolution theory of the 19th-century British naturalist holds that existing animals and plants are the result of natural selection which eliminated inferior species gradually over time. This conflicts with the "creationist" theory that God created all life on the planet in a finite number.
Orzechowski called for a debate on whether Darwin's theory should be taught in schools.
"We should not teach lies, just as we should not teach bad instead of good, or ugliness instead of beauty," he said. "We are not going to withdraw (Darwin's theory) from the school books, but we should start to discuss it."
The deputy minister is a member of a Catholic far-right political group, the League of Polish Families. The league's head, Roman Giertych, is education minister in the conservative coalition government of Prime Minister Jaroslaw Kaczynski.
Giertych's father Maciej, who represents the league in the European Parliament, organised a discussion there last week on Darwinism. He described the theory as "not supported by proof" and called for it be removed from school books.
The far-right joined the government in May when Kaczynski's ruling conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party, after months of ineffective minority government, formed a coalition including LPR and the populist Sambroon party.
Roman Giertych has not spoken out on Darwinism, but the far-right politician's stance on other issues has stirred protest in Poland since he joined the government.
A school pupils' association was expected to demonstrate in front of the education ministry on Saturday to call for his resignation.
How about a "same old spam" placemarker? I wish we had the capability on FR to show how many times Coyote has posted this same graphic...could it be thousands of times?
You need to give one of the heads a strange blue glow...
And, after all, the left does have the Christian Science (Science!!) Monitor. There is no life, truth or substance in matter. All is infinite mind. and all that.
I happen to have a soft spot in my heart for Moonies.
You care more about what they believe than I do. I have noticed that the Moonies are more helpful than they are harmful. But you can ask the same stupid question again, if you like. Evos are nothing if they are not obsessive.
Sorry, the tune's just running in my head.
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I disagree. Science has generally been taught with intelligent design as its underlying principle for decades, hence it has a valid secular purpose. The purpose does not even have to be secular in the first place, as our Constitution does not prohibit any interface or intermingling between science and religion.
The Constitution in no way prohibits the expression of any idea - religious or not - in a public, scientific, academic context and in fact guarantees free expression of the same. The only thing prohibited is government endorsement of a particular religious sect or denomination. ID is hardly party to a particular religion and in fact is demonstrated by all humans on a regular basis.
If evolutionism were pure science it would not be seeking the federal government's assistance in squelching ideas that make sense. What it is, however, is a philosophy of history built upon miscellaneous disciplines of science undertaken with the arbitrary, unscientifically determined notion that the "supernatural" is beyond its purview.
Science does not have the prerogative of declaring religion or ideas in accord with religion as having no basis in objective reality any more than science has the prerogative of declaring thoughts to be outside of objective reality.
...And thus my point!! "Strong Conviction" is NOT fact, it's religion, not science.
Thanks, for being honest.
Dave, I don't hold anyones words against you. That would be silly. I hold nothing against you. Maybe some evolutionists use words like stupid or ignorant sometimes. We, on the other hand get called satanists and evil. There are no satanists at DC. Remember No Kin to Monkeys at DC. Remember his opus? We are all going to rot in hell.
True enough, but also enough to get a person convicted in a court of law using forensic evidence.
If all a theory needs is circumstantial evidence in order to be scientific, then you have no business disqualifying intelligent design as a scientific theory. If it requires more, then the theory of evolution is not qualified to be called as such.
If "proofs" are the sole domain of mathematics, then why get one's panties in a twist when reminded that evolution (in the wide sense) is a theory as opposed to a proven fact?
ID doesn't even qualify as a scientific theory.
It does if held to the standards required by evolutionists for their "theory." Furthermore, intelligent design enjoys thousands of examples for direct observation at any given moment where intellect is at work. That's more than one can say for what is essentially a philosophy of history concocted by the imagination based upon the assumption that where there is a common form there must be common history.
They DO!?
All I see are skulls that are all DIFFERENT!
Dang!
I get here too late to see the "embarassing nonsense" again!
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