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Pope to announce limbo does not exist
Morning Call via Chicago Tribune ^ | October 6, 2006 | Daniel Patrick Sheehan

Posted on 10/09/2006 8:53:29 PM PDT by SirLinksalot

Edited on 10/09/2006 9:00:42 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Campion; TeenagedConservative

My thoughts exactly.


21 posted on 10/09/2006 9:09:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: TeenagedConservative

Yes, indeed, Luther figured this out (more than) four centuries ago (I'm sure you didn't mean 'decades'), merely by reading the Holy Scriptures and having no cause to invent imaginary doctrines. What a concept!


22 posted on 10/09/2006 9:09:55 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: Campion

**What exactly was Luther doing in 1966, anyway, and where was he doing it?!?**

LOL! Good catch!


23 posted on 10/09/2006 9:10:22 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: JRios1968
Don't do like man in Asian turnstile and Bangkok.
24 posted on 10/09/2006 9:12:05 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: doc1019
The Biblical precept of "Paradise" or "Outer Darkness".

They erase your hard drive, you're out ~ gone ~ hasta la vista baby ~ ain't home no mo'.

That's not exactly the popular concept of "Hell" ~ and to be quite frank about it, the popular concept of "Hell" is more than vaguely reminescent of "The Demon Realm" of Hindu belief.

25 posted on 10/09/2006 9:12:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SirLinksalot

It certainly does.

I saw people dancing it in our building lobby last week during FallFest.


26 posted on 10/09/2006 9:12:48 PM PDT by George Smiley (This tagline has been Reutered. (Can you tell?))
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To: ZULU

Just some of the Scripture that supports the concept of Purgatory:

PURGATORY

Lk 12:58-59; 1 Cor 3:15; Mt 5:25-26 ... temporary agony.
Heb 12:6-11 ... God’s painful discipline.
Mt 12:32 ... no forgiveness ... nor in the age to come.
1 Pet 3:18-20 ... might be purgatory (limbo?).
1 Pet 4:6 ... preached to the dead.
Rev 21:27 ... nothing unclean shall enter heaven.
Heb 12:23 ... souls in heaven are perfect.
Col 1:24; 2 Sam 12:13-14 ... “extra” suffering.
2 Mac 12:43-46 ... sacrifice for the dead.
2 Tim 1:15-18 ... prayer for Onesiphorus for “that Day.”
1 Jn 5:14-17 ... mortal/venial sins


27 posted on 10/09/2006 9:13:12 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Enterprise

LOL


28 posted on 10/09/2006 9:13:30 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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To: Campion
Luther figured this out 4 decades ago.

What exactly was Luther doing in 1966, anyway, and where was he doing it?!?

Perhaps he was in limbo...doing the limbo.

29 posted on 10/09/2006 9:13:50 PM PDT by George Smiley (This tagline has been Reutered. (Can you tell?))
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To: TeenagedConservative

There have been congregations of believers since the days of the Apostles, almost 300 years before there was any Pope or Roman Catholic Church, who never were confused about this, and never had to figure this out. They knew what Paradise was in Luke ch. 16, and didn't need a sinner in a fancy robe on a fancy throne to tell them whether there was anything like "Limbo."

When will the pope ask his theologians to get around to discussing the relevance of a pope.


30 posted on 10/09/2006 9:14:52 PM PDT by Free Baptist
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To: SirLinksalot
Does not exist??

This journalist has not done his homework.

Pope to announce limbo does not exist

Vatican City: Pope Keeps Limbo in Limbo, for Now

Pope leaves limbo in limbo

Concept of Limbo "no longer to explain the eternal fate of unbaptized babies"

Limbo under threat from Vatican theologians

Limbo

Limbo and the Hope of Salvation

31 posted on 10/09/2006 9:15:24 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: SirLinksalot
He said that while affirming people's hope, the document takes pains to explain the Christian belief that baptism is necessary to guarantee salvation and urges parents to baptise their infants.

John 3:16 doesn't seem to mention baptism.

32 posted on 10/09/2006 9:16:16 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: SirLinksalot

bump


33 posted on 10/09/2006 9:16:44 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: Salvation
I tend to think the idea of unbaptized babies going to limbo was a man man idea to get people to baptize babies fast and keep Church membership going . I couldn't see God not loving these babies as much as he dose the Pope Himself.
34 posted on 10/09/2006 9:17:15 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: Elsiejay

And Luther was wrong. What the title of this article implies is not really what is happening.

Secular journalists ---- I'm sure you get the drift. Read the links above -- it's been in the religion forum for weeks!


35 posted on 10/09/2006 9:17:25 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: SirLinksalot

"No limbo? In the name of St. Bob Marley, say it isn't so, mon!"

36 posted on 10/09/2006 9:17:34 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Elsiejay

**Yes, indeed, Luther figured this out (more than) four centuries ago (I'm sure you didn't mean 'decades'), merely by reading the Holy Scriptures and having no cause to invent imaginary doctrines. What a concept!**

But it is supported in Holy Scripture. Think about the passages I referenced.


37 posted on 10/09/2006 9:18:27 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: muawiyah

Actually it more than likely derives from Zoroastrian beliefs with a little Hellenic beliefs such as Tartarus thrown in.


38 posted on 10/09/2006 9:18:46 PM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: Elsiejay

Luther did invent imaginary doctrines:

1) Sola scriptura

2) Sola fide

Neither is found in scripture. He also cut books from the Bible (both Old Testament and New).


39 posted on 10/09/2006 9:21:25 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: ZULU
"Unlike purgatory, which Catholics say is rooted in Scripture,.."

?????????

Where?


A lot of that is covered at this link (I am too lazy to "linkasize" it, so you will need to cut and paste it into your browser window - sorry!!). I am not sure if this article is "all-inclusive" or not, but it certainly covers a lot of material, including Old and New Testament citations. Interesting to note that some non-Catholic chuches also hold the belief. It if you don't agree with the article after having read it, you will at least come away much better informed on the topic!!

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12575a.htm
40 posted on 10/09/2006 9:22:59 PM PDT by Zetman (I believe the children are the next generation.)
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