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Are we ALL neanderthals?
The Daily Mail ^ | 15th September 2006 | MICHAEL HANLON

Posted on 09/20/2006 3:49:12 PM PDT by JTN

Their very name has become a byword for all that is brutish, stupid and crude. In the popular imagination, these were the violent, shambling, grunting apemen of legend. If you accuse someone of being a Neanderthal, you are not paying them a compliment.

But Neanderthal Man, who represented one of the oddest and most mysterious chapters in the history of humanity, has been undergoing something of a makeover in recent years.

We now know that these extinct cousins were not the brutes of legend but a sophisticated and intelligent species, capable of creating fire, fashioning delicate tools, burying their dead and perhaps even making music.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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21 posted on 09/20/2006 4:07:17 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: martin_fierro

Maybe Joey Porter............

Have fun with this Martin.

*****

Start a thread.......... it's got some meat.

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22 posted on 09/20/2006 4:07:52 PM PDT by beyond the sea ( A tree fell in woods, a conservative wasn't around, would it still kill the liberal chained to it ?)
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To: JTN

Whole point being that eventually all will acknowledge that Neanderthals are as much human as you or I, they are not another genus. So much for the CERTAIN proclamations that they were an extinct evolutionary branch of homo. Our silly skull reconstructions are so eurocentric as to exclude other skull shapes from other areas of the world. You whould see some of the headshapes from the backwoods in L.A.!


23 posted on 09/20/2006 4:12:40 PM PDT by jimmyray
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To: Slicksadick; To Hell With Poverty

The Singing Neanderthals (The Origins of Music, Language, Mind, and Body)

24 posted on 09/20/2006 4:14:12 PM PDT by blam
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To: JTN

They showed no improvement in tools and culture after 250,000 years according to science channel so I think they were just apes. DNA shows that they were related to no other creature on earth so where does this cousin stuff come from? They were not related to humans.


25 posted on 09/20/2006 4:14:13 PM PDT by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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To: Fiddlstix

Neanderthals had evolved beyond simply dragging their knuckles on the ground. So being called a "Neanderthal" is actually a tad less derogatory than being called a "Knuckle-dragger".

Less derogatory = complimentary.

What the heck, I'll take what I can get.


26 posted on 09/20/2006 4:15:49 PM PDT by alloysteel (In war, disproportionate force is the ONLY way to assure victory and subsequent peace.)
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To: mountainlyons
Redheads 'Are Neanderthals'

"RED hair may be the genetic legacy of Neanderthals, scientists believe."

"Researchers at the John Radcliffe Institute of Molecular Medicine in Oxford say that the so-called “ginger gene” which gives people red hair, fair skin and freckles could be up to 100,000 years old."

"They claim that their discovery points to the gene having originated in Neanderthal man who lived in Europe for 200,000 years before Homo sapien settlers, the ancestors of modern man, arrived from Africa about 40,000 years ago."

27 posted on 09/20/2006 4:18:12 PM PDT by blam
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To: JTN
There Is A Little Neanderthal In A Lot Of Us
28 posted on 09/20/2006 4:21:08 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Cool! Sounds like a fascinating read. I wonder which part of the brain controls our response to music...perhaps one of those areas which was larger in the Neanderthals, and music had a stronger role in their communication than spoken language or visual symbols?
</wild speculation> ;)


29 posted on 09/20/2006 4:21:32 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (No integration without inebriation!)
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To: Pharmboy

I have a great mango salsa recipe. It's quite tastey!
susie


30 posted on 09/20/2006 4:23:16 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Pharmboy
Was in a restaurant in Palo Alto yesterday that actually had mango salsa on the menu.


31 posted on 09/20/2006 4:27:14 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: To Hell With Poverty
Thank you for that kind, gracious ===> Placemarker <===!! LOL

I am back from a meeting and I found my place in this thread easily. That why I use placemarkers.

And, now, on with the thread...

32 posted on 09/20/2006 4:33:55 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: jimmyray
Whole point being that eventually all will acknowledge that Neanderthals are as much human as you or I, they are not another genus. So much for the CERTAIN proclamations that they were an extinct evolutionary branch of homo. Our silly skull reconstructions are so eurocentric as to exclude other skull shapes from other areas of the world. You whould see some of the headshapes from the backwoods in L.A.!

Check out the mtDNA results.

33 posted on 09/20/2006 4:35:16 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: blam
I read an article that said the DNA of neanderthals was different and not related to any creature on earth. Does this "researcher" have the DNA proof about redheads? It would be interesting to compare DNA in unrelated species.
35 posted on 09/20/2006 4:44:52 PM PDT by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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To: JTN
Interest?

Thanks, but I have to pass.

36 posted on 09/20/2006 4:46:40 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Science-denial is not conservative. It's reality-denial and it's unhealthy.)
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To: martin_fierro

you scare me boy...


37 posted on 09/20/2006 4:47:00 PM PDT by Felis_irritable
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To: JTN
There are a lot of errors and outright BS in this article.
Perhaps the worst, Neanderthal brains were smaller, NOT bigger than Homo Sapiens Sapiens (modern Man). The Cro Magnon skulls were a little bit bigger, but then they're classified as modern Man, similar to the Scandinavian people. After several investigations, it has been decisively concluded that Homo Sapiens Neandertalis and Homo Sapiens Sapiens share NO DNA, and therefore we are not their descendants!
38 posted on 09/20/2006 4:53:15 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( ISLAMA DELENDA EST!)
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To: JTN

Neanderthals are the ones who failed to make the cut, to join the homo sapiens genetic team. Some of their ancestors survived though, to become socialists, terrorists, demagogues, nazis, and Democrats.


39 posted on 09/20/2006 4:56:01 PM PDT by pleikumud
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To: mountainlyons
"I read an article that said the DNA of neanderthals was different and not related to any creature on earth. Does this "researcher" have the DNA proof about redheads? It would be interesting to compare DNA in unrelated species."

Go here for many articles on Neanderthals. Read them and you'll know more than me.(ahem)

40 posted on 09/20/2006 5:04:33 PM PDT by blam
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