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Neanderthals And Humans Lived Side By Side
New Scientist ^ | 9-13-2006 | Rowan Hooper

Posted on 09/13/2006 11:09:49 AM PDT by blam

Neanderthals and humans lived side by side

18:00 13 September 2006
NewScientist.com news service
Rowan Hooper

Neanderthals were thought to have died out as modern humans arrived in Europe. Now, artifacts found in a cave in Gibraltar reveal that the two groups coexisted for millenia before Neanderthals finally dwindled out of existence.

Homo sapiens moved into Europe about 32,000 years ago. But the newly unearthered artefacts shows that a remnant population of Homo neanderthalensis clung on until at least 28,000 years ago, a significant overlap.

Clive Finlayson at the Gibraltar Museum, and colleagues, recovered 240 stone tools and artefacts from sediments dated to the Upper Palaeolithic period – between 10,000 and 30,000 years ago. Mass spectrometry dating puts them between 28,000 and 24,000 years old.

The exciting point is that the tools are all of a type known to palaeontologists as Mousterian: they are flints, cherts and quartzites exclusively associated with Neanderthal manufacture.

“Mousterian technology is firmly associated with Neanderthals across Europe,” says Finlayson, who adds that in the sediment layers where the tools where found there is no hint of intrusion from more recent layers, and no sign of tools made by modern humans.

Genetically distinct

Since modern humans and Neanderthals seem to have overlapped for thousands of years in Europe, the big question is: did they interbreed?

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To: stm

Us neanderthals are conservative, you know. We are still debating fire.


21 posted on 09/13/2006 11:17:45 AM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: LIConFem

LOL! I type fast!


22 posted on 09/13/2006 11:17:48 AM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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To: blam
Global warming caused their extinction!
23 posted on 09/13/2006 11:18:16 AM PDT by RWR8189 (George Allen for President)
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To: xcamel

I have a real (not a replica) Neanderthal stone tool from southern France dated to about 60K years ago.


24 posted on 09/13/2006 11:19:06 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: blam

25 posted on 09/13/2006 11:19:13 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: blam

Have you read Darwin's Radio by Greg Bear? There's a good audio recording on Recorded Books narrated by George Guidall.


26 posted on 09/13/2006 11:21:08 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: blam

Ugly Neanderthal women need loving too!


27 posted on 09/13/2006 11:21:28 AM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: RadioAstronomer

They had more than 4-hour Viagra back then???


28 posted on 09/13/2006 11:22:04 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (DemocRAT leaders easily confuse the minds of the simple.)
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To: dfwgator

How terribly insensitive of you.


29 posted on 09/13/2006 11:23:00 AM PDT by steve-b (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.)
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To: dfwgator

Now that's funny. I don't care who you are, that's a funny joke there!


30 posted on 09/13/2006 11:23:12 AM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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To: blam
It's been documented.


31 posted on 09/13/2006 11:23:51 AM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: blam

Until the humans hunted them into extinction (or bred them out of existence).


32 posted on 09/13/2006 11:24:45 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; ...
Thanks Blam. When this has come up in the past, it is either used as a pretext to say that Neandertal made no tools, or later is bashed to say that the sites were occupied in succession.

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33 posted on 09/13/2006 11:27:27 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Saturday, September 2, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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a tall glass of the usual, please:
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]

34 posted on 09/13/2006 11:29:02 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Saturday, September 2, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam

My neighbors are Neanderthals........Some of my best friends are Neanderthals.........


35 posted on 09/13/2006 11:29:47 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: blam

Maybe they interbred and produced Howard Dean.


36 posted on 09/13/2006 11:30:33 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (The LORD spoke to me ..."Do not call conspiracy everything that these people call conspiracy")
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To: blam

bookmark


37 posted on 09/13/2006 11:31:51 AM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: steve-b
"How terribly insensitive of you."

That's right! He needs to be more nuanced in his approach. This guy is our best "sensitivity" teacher.


38 posted on 09/13/2006 11:32:32 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (DemocRAT leaders easily confuse the minds of the simple.)
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Once I was a tadpole, beginning to begin.
Then I was a froggy with my tail tucked in.
Then I was a monkey, swinging in a tree.
Now I'm a professor with a PhD.


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39 posted on 09/13/2006 11:35:24 AM PDT by ricer1
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To: blam

Big fat Doh. Beowulf wasn't written by Dan Rather. There were and continue to be "interactions" between humans of varying development. You aren't going to convince me a Maury Aboriginal is the same strain of human as an a Dutchman for example.

Beowulf and his clan wiped out a good number of these bloodlusting, queen mother obeying brutes.


40 posted on 09/13/2006 11:39:06 AM PDT by kinghorse (I calls them like I sees them)
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